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OP Arty's need be changed and back on old FV215b (183).

4:03 pm, October 23, 2014 The artillery has drastically changed, tier 10 can not be more than 500 hit points, the reason why I think it's fair to change it because arty remains hidden 90% of match time. It's stupid that a spg [..] View

KV-4 Performance

5:03 am, October 23, 2014 I have a 4 skill Russian heavy crew from my IS-6, and was considering the KV-4 because I really, really want the ST-I, but I'm apprehensive about its performance, especially in tier X games. Could so [..] View

ISU-152: How viable is it without the BL-10?

4:03 pm, October 21, 2014 Sorry if there is a similar post but I couldn't find one: question is simple. Is the ISU playable using the stock 152mm derp? It was fantastic on the SU, especially up-close with dirty HEAT shells but [..] View

M4A3E8 "Fury" related questions

5:03 am, October 18, 2014 Hello! I would want to know opinions about this new premium medium! How does the tank compare against his normal non-premium brother? How is the income? How does the nerfed armor hold up? General opin [..] View

What to do with the "free" Fury crew?

4:03 pm, October 15, 2014 This is if you are running a US med line and have a crew to grind in it.  Obviously if you don't have a US med crew to put in it the free crew comes in handy.  But for those of us wi [..] View

Where to go after the T-34 and KV-1?

5:03 am, October 15, 2014 I'm currently playing through both of these tanks and I'm not sure which line I want to continue down with either. I'm especially wondering with the T-34 since I'm not that familiar with the T-34-85 o [..] View

Let us use M3 Lee turret gun(Multiple AT gun Tanks)

5:03 am, October 15, 2014 This should be a feature in World of Tank. The Turret on M3 Lee is effective enough to pen Tier 3 and 4. Possible Tier 5 too. There should be a button to tell the gunner/crew to switch guns. So if I f [..] View

[RDDT] EU is Recruiting!

5:03 am, October 14, 2014 What do we do? Clan Wars Strongholds Platoons Tournaments What do we offer? A stable, active and sociable World of Tanks community since 2011. Excellent opportunities in Clan Wars (currently fighting [..] View

Nothing Worse Than These...

4:03 pm, October 12, 2014 Fellow Tankers,   So it is the weekend, we all know what that brings to the table. Nothing much to say on that subject, but for the first time I've witnessed something odd, and it pissed me o [..] View

Can't even play this weekand - arty constantly getting me

5:03 am, October 12, 2014 Like seriously, I'm seeing 3 arties on enemy team constantly, and I get singled out and nuked with one shot. Even my LTs are not safe. Especially my LTs. And when I play in the E100 or some other tank [..] View

Game Crashing in M24 Chaffee Sport! Vehicle name not visible!

5:03 am, October 11, 2014 Hello fellow tanker,   Lately World of Tanks has been crashing for me, pacifically with the M24 Chaffee Sport. I will be in the middle of a race and my game will just close and it us [..] View

How can WG make dealing damage more popular?

4:03 pm, October 8, 2014 So with the introduction of the Fire for Effect medal (variously described as the most useless medal to earn or the most depressing medal to NOT earn) I've started looking at damage numbers in my team [..] View

Russian superiority

5:03 am, October 5, 2014 I've seen quite a few players b**ch about the so called 'Russian dominance in wot'. I have to say, I don't believe it exists ... I'll admit Russian tanks are impressive and they field good tanks in ev [..] View

FPRRU Embassy and Propaganda Printing Press Center

4:03 pm, October 4, 2014 Welcome to the new and improved Jimmy Rustling Repository of Clan Wars Knowledge and Archiving Embassy. We (myself and some other guy) are dedicated to bringing our audience the best in jimmy rustling [..] View

Newbs, noobs, beginners - pick the right tank from the start

4:03 pm, October 3, 2014 Tankers.   I have seen a lot of sad posts lately from players with 2k to 5k games who are struggling with the game. Poor win rate, WN8, bad stats, low esteem. I am no guru, so please don't ge [..] View

How do you play Prokhorovka in a heavy?

5:03 am, October 3, 2014 I hate seeing that map over and over, especially when driving a russian heavy. When I see that map my options are: Go 1-2 line and get destoyed by scouts and tds Go down the center along railroad trac [..] View

Tier list of tanks for tier 6 strongholds

5:03 am, October 2, 2014 Lately I've been doing quite a bit of tier 6 strongholds and encountering a lot of teams that seem to have no idea what they're doing. I'm hoping to write some guides maybe when I have more experience [..] View

Reroll // stat pad question

5:03 am, October 2, 2014 Why do people reroll and/or stat pad? I really don't see the purpose of it, especially for people who do it and can't make at least 2.4k wn8. submitted by Gilad1 [link] [2 comments] View

Should their be a minimum/maximum game limit to play certain tiers?

5:03 am, October 1, 2014 I have nearly 3,500 battles now. I got rid of my last tier I tank probably 2700 battles ago, and got rid of my last tier II tank about 1,500 battles ago. Just the other day I decided not to buy the ti [..] View

The US light tank branch (opinion/advice from you tankers)

5:03 am, September 30, 2014 Hey, I have a couple of questions regarding the US light branch. So, the first thing is I'm wondering if it is worth it. My favorite branch so far is the medium british line (fast with accurate, fast [..] View

I really enjoy my Aufklärungspanzer

5:03 am, September 28, 2014 Took me a while to figure it out (even after it was fully upgraded). It has high top speed but is sluggish so you cant rely on it's acceleration. So you have to pickup your speed out of sight. Right [..] View

Questions since you redditers are awesome (bout tank paths)

5:03 am, September 26, 2014 I seems to have a German fetish. Not quite sure what it is but I keep going back to Germans. I'm currently grinding out both med lines. I have the 3001d fully unlocked now just grinding xp to next tan [..] View

A New Arty Suggestion

5:03 am, September 26, 2014 Everybody loves arty, right? No? Exactly the opposite, you say? Hang out on the forum long enough and you'll probably notice terms like "skycancer" and "clicker" being thrown aroun [..] View

Why the SU-100M1 isn't that bad

5:03 am, September 25, 2014 I've played the SU-100M1 all the way through (and a little more), and I am one of the few that actually really likes it. Everyone's complaining that it sucks, but I will try to help and let people see [..] View

How to improve: Know your tanks and maps. (Not a basic guide)

5:03 am, September 25, 2014 Let's face it. Most of the people on this forum are not bad. They know the mechanics. They know all the weak spots. Map positioning. Spotting. Crew layouts. And all the other stuff. Those threads help [..] View

Any advice for the 4502 A?

4:03 pm, September 24, 2014 Just got the 4502 A last night.  By all accounts it sucks.   It's especially problematic for me as I'm a heavy armor brawler specialist.  I'm told that's the opposite of wha [..] View

Is it national ignore a flank day or something?

5:03 am, September 23, 2014 Alright I need to vent, because this is driving me freaking insane. I swear one in every 4 battles, if I am lucky, I get a team that lemmings off to one side, all the heavies, mediums, etc, leaving th [..] View

T110E5 crew in the wrong spots?

5:03 am, September 22, 2014 Now this is just an interesting thing I noticed while watching a streamer play the E5 earlier today that I hadn't noticed before: The T110E5's crew layout seems to be wrong for a US tank. Or, rather, [..] View

Here are a few problems I have with the game...

5:03 am, September 22, 2014 First of all, let me say I love the game. However, that being said, I have a few issues with the over all game mechanics.   1. When a tank is hit in the front, front armor, why does that disa [..] View

To WZ-132 or not to WZ-132?

4:03 pm, September 21, 2014 I started working on the Chinese tree a while ago and almost unlocked the WZ-131. I'm not interested in the mediums, the only reason I started the line is because I wanted a fast, nimble light tank wi [..] View

Some T-34-3 buff analysis

4:03 pm, September 21, 2014 Yes, there is already a topic on this, but since I'm an idiot and I'm making my own thread on it anyway.   Anyway, according to FTR, here are some tentative buffs.   - DPM increased [..] View

WG support banned my son and me for playing from the same house.

5:03 am, September 21, 2014 Hello everyone. So while I was away from the computer for the evening last night with my son it was brought to my attention that my WoT account was permanently banned via a PM to my phone from a clan [..] View

Does Wargaming Hear Us?

4:03 pm, September 20, 2014 When there some tanks that seem to be really bad, like the Sturer Emil, or some that need just a slight buff like the AMX 50 120, does Wargaming even care?  For example, the [..] View

ARBOK looking for experienced ACTIVE clan wars Tankers

5:03 am, September 18, 2014     .We are looking for players who want to stay in our clan to play in our clan. To us joining a clan is a lot like getting married, when you join us, the clan is committing to giv [..] View

I need your opinion on this cw/company strategy

5:03 am, September 17, 2014 I see one major problem with all strategies in cws and companies. When commander is considered total power - players obey his orders even if it costs them their tank. One single guy/girl cant fully un [..] View

And then....................

4:03 pm, September 15, 2014 When you have a terrible WR and you are in a losing streak, even a little one like I am in, and you are a grouchy old **** you begin to notice and see the increase frequency of some real game-breakers [..] View

FTR: T-34-3 will be buffed. Does it need that?

4:03 pm, September 14, 2014 As thread title. I'd like to point towards its closest brother, the T-34-2, who can use the exact same gun, albeit at a loss of .17 RoF and .02 dispersion.   As far as I can tell, th [..] View

Underside armor stats

4:03 pm, September 13, 2014 Has anyone ever gathered armor stats for the underside of the hull of a tank?  It's extremely rare that a tank presents its undercarriage to you, but it does happen especially on certain stee [..] View

Need Help with Bat Chat and IS-7 Play Style

5:03 am, September 13, 2014 I first started out in WoT playing scouts. I saw my ex playing and decided to give it a shot and when he asked what I wanted to do I just said "go fast". So the first tank I went after was t [..] View

Another Epic Mega Clan facing desertion from it's sub clans.

4:03 pm, September 11, 2014 It would seem Clan Wars powerhouse [BRIT] who was the leader of the once massive [EMPIRE] family of clans, may be losing another sub clan.  Once the dominant clan in the game with la [..] View

Average WN8s By Tank For Reddit Players

5:03 am, September 10, 2014 Here are some interesting stats (interesting to me alone, possibly) on average WN8s for various tanks for players in Reddit clans. This is based on the 544 out of 1709 players in Reddit clans that hav [..] View

[APPEAL] REPLAYS NEEDED TO MAKE TUTORIALS FOR BEGINNERS

4:03 pm, September 9, 2014 Hi guys, I wonder if you can help, I am about to make 2 youtube videos and would like to give the opportunity to star in them. They will be tutorials for new players the next two videos are; Bush conc [..] View

What is the point of the tank destroyer?

5:03 am, September 9, 2014 I have had 3 different ones. tier 2,3 and 4. They are all somewhat slow and not especially strong facing another tank which you have to face cause the turret does not spin 360. If at least they had a [..] View

WN8 - would a winrate floor help against useless damage farming

4:03 pm, September 8, 2014 When WN8 was formulated the devs used winrate as the main correlation. So a players with high WN8 did also have high winrates. Now that WN8 is out for quite a while more and more players pad it by da [..] View

Got My 1st Tier 10 Medium

5:03 am, September 8, 2014 Hello again, Well after getting many of the tier 10 heavies and a TD, I finally decided that make the push toward my 1st tier 10 medium. And judging the 9.3 patch notes, I got it at just the [..] View

Ram II, Purchase and Initial Thoughts

5:03 am, September 8, 2014 Hello again, Well with the 50% sale going on right now, I figured that now would be a good time to pick up the Ram II (Lower tier fun and crew trainer). After one game, I'm already enjoying t [..] View

Please explain the mechanics of HE penetration, in regards to SPGs especially

5:03 am, September 7, 2014 I know most of the special rules for standard ammo types, and a lot of the tricks too (double and triple overmatch, shot traps, etc), but HE I'm still a little fuzzy on. I only recently realized that [..] View

Complaint about a member of Badgr

5:03 am, September 7, 2014 Spishak(Badgr) was just in a game with me, and gave away the positions of our entire team in chat to the enemy. Why do people do this? It ruins the fun of the game. Especially someone in a tier 10 gam [..] View

Dear Wargaming..... Please make LARGE Repair & Health kits "Multi-Use".

4:03 pm, September 6, 2014 In their current forum, fix everything first use is not worth it, and especially at the high cost of 20k. I'm sure your stats tell you that almost no-one uses large repair and health.  This m [..] View

New American Light Tanks

5:03 am, September 6, 2014 You know, the light tanks are a great addition to the game, they really add, some diversity, and put more action out on the battlefield. the T49 (tier 8 light* especially with that big derp g [..] View

Some thoughts on in-game Camo schemes

5:03 am, September 5, 2014 While it isn't their #1 priority right now, I feel like the options for in-game camo could use some work. I know some guys don't really care about how it actually looks, but I originally came to the g [..] View

Looking for some info on premium tanks.

4:03 pm, September 4, 2014 Hey guys! I've recently decided to purchase my third premium tank, 1st one was t25 and 2nd one was e25. To be honest I love them both and I'm currently around 80%ish MoE. I need your advice on what s [..] View

Will the japanese tonk line get cheaper (exp wise) in the future?

5:03 am, September 3, 2014 I and a friend decided to start grinding the japanese line until I noticed something when comparing some stats....the fact that especially at the highest 2 tiers this line costs a lot more exp to rese [..] View

[september mission] Type 62 or KV-220

4:03 pm, September 1, 2014 I think I may be able to complete one of those, but can't decide which one to go for. I already own a KV-220 so the reward would be slot+gold (1500 if I'm not mistaken?) I enjoy playing meds and espec [..] View

Low tiers are extremely difficult for new players.

2:01 am, August 31, 2014 So today me and my friend, who is new to World of Tanks were playing, and he just got his T-46. So we platoon up and we find a game like this. http://imgur.com/1KsCrof . Now I must ask, what is the po [..] View

RDDT3 NA Is Recruiting!

2:01 am, August 30, 2014 Are you a player who: is looking to raise stats/grind tanks to get into a CW clan? is looking for people to platoon with? is looking to compete in Strongholds, Tank Companies, and Team Battles? Then [..] View

Turn an Elite Tank into a Premium

2:01 pm, August 28, 2014 Hi, y'all. So this game has a problem, and fortunately I have a solution. One of the things that bothers players is some trees in the game for some nations simply have no way to train a crew for a veh [..] View

clans and asgard stuff

2:01 am, August 28, 2014 Who's fighting vs who's farming? Viking 4 Lyfe Yo: G OTTER BADGR Agriculture Best Culture: PBKAC On the fence/Alluraidoesn'tknow: RELIC REL3 VILIN BULLS CHAI NTR SIMP DOS RDDT GANGZ RS HAVOK Afflic [..] View

Why does WoT use such a ****** auto-ballistic 'adjustment' system, especially in sniper mode?

2:01 am, August 27, 2014 This has been aggravating me more and more lately, perhaps because I've been playing a few tanks with larger-caliber, slower rounds. What I mean by 'auto-ballistic adjustment' [..] View

Tips/Advice for Solo-Pubbing

2:01 pm, August 26, 2014 Recently I have been trying to improve my play by watching streamers more. I have run into the issue that most streamers will often platoon with other skilled players. This seems to allow them to take [..] View

How to: Aufkl. (Awful) Panther

2:01 pm, August 26, 2014 It has come to my attention in a situation today (will tell the story if asked) that not many players know the role played when driving an Aufkl., or telling a player what to do in his/her Aufkl. I ca [..] View

Naming and shaming?

2:01 pm, August 26, 2014 If it's against forum policy to name and shame by putting up a screen capture of game stats, why is it not the same for posting a screen cap of someone's personal stat page? Especially if the person i [..] View

It seems there is a significant in-game delay involving enemy guns swinging around to aim/shoot at you

2:01 am, August 26, 2014 I just experienced this phenomenon for the umpteenth time tonight. I own a BDR G1b, so I am painfully aware of its slow aim time and its inaccuracy when firing without any aiming, especially at target [..] View

The new medals for 9.3

2:01 pm, August 24, 2014 http://ftr.wot-news.com/2014/08/24/straight-outta-supertest-9-3-new-medals/ Is it just me or do these seem a bit easy to get... Especially "Shot to ****". Any decent player will be able t [..] View

Updating RSS Feed in a timely manner/ Custom Decal "Off Switch"

2:01 pm, August 21, 2014 1) WOT knows when it's gonna patch or has to do an emergency patch. Why can't the RSS feed for alternative downloads be updated at the same time? Yet when we had to do manual patching (due to Launche [..] View

Matilda Black Prince is utter rubbish don't waste your gold.

2:01 pm, August 20, 2014 this tank is fooking shite -Had I not got it at half price I'd be more annoyed than I am. I wanted a british medium trainer and this is all there is and it is pretty much the most dreadful tank I've e [..] View

What makes a good player in WOT. A commentary on why I think stats matter.

2:01 am, August 20, 2014 Let me preface this by saying this is my personal opinion developed largely around my experience in this game over the last few months. It is not intended to criticize or insult anyone who disagrees o [..] View

Any mod to prevent you from firing with 999 ping?

2:01 pm, August 14, 2014 I've been playing the on track and I'm down to the last 12k for the 250k and after playing this on track I've had SO many shots miss because of server lag jumping to 999 for no apparent reason. Basica [..] View

New to this game and not sure which tech trees are worth it

2:01 am, August 13, 2014 I have been having trouble choosing which lines in the tech trees to take, especially the american tech tree. I wanted to keep my SPG because that is fun to use. Cant decide wether to choose the M3Lee [..] View

[EU] Mangled Metal 5v5 Problems

2:01 am, August 13, 2014 First of all I apologize to everyone as this probably isn't the content you would like to see on your favourite tonk subreddit, but I feel like this way it will get more exposure and it may ev [..] View

Map making, changing, and their effects.

2:01 am, August 12, 2014 SirFoch's video today really got me thinking about how Wargaming has been going about making maps lately and its effect on gameplay and general classes in World of Tanks. https://www.youtube.com/wa [..] View

Question about equipment fit for higher-tier meds?

2:01 am, August 11, 2014 So I was doing a little bit of thinking today and I thought, you know, I tend to take the most hits when I'm aiming in to take a shot. I know the conventional wisdom is always optics + rammer [..] View

Why not more camo?

2:01 pm, August 9, 2014 I was just think why is there not more camo patters to pick from? I mean just looking at the sheer amount of options the chinese tanks have to pick, why can the other nations not have similar amount o [..] View

Tier 8/1 Fail platoon did not actually fail... Wow

2:01 am, August 8, 2014 So.. Here I was, having a match in my PTA, and there's a friggin LolTraktor platooned with a tier 8 in the match. It was really annoying, especially when he started talking all cocky about how what a [..] View

JT 8,8 map advices

2:01 pm, August 4, 2014 On most maps and tanks, I have a general idea where to go. Unfortunately, JT 8,8 is this vehicle, where I often don't know - and eventually, fail. It has too many known limits, which make it w [..] View

So much team frustration.

2:01 pm, August 4, 2014 Team, after team, after team. I don't understand. How is the 'average' player this... bad? I really don't get it.... I don't. Surely they don't like los [..] View

Make newly bought tanks cheaper if some modules are already owned.

2:01 pm, August 4, 2014 If I buy a new tank which comes stock with a module I already have in my depot, why does the tank come with that module freshly bought instead of simply mounting the one in the depot, and subtracting [..] View

KV-5 as a solo player?

2:01 am, August 4, 2014 I've heard the KV-5 is fantastic, especially in a platoon. However I'm a loner screb and solo all my games. So that means I'm going to be in many and I meanmany1 v. multiple people situations. How wel [..] View

A Sincere apology...

2:01 am, August 4, 2014 Last battle on Malinovka whilst approaching the enemy base I was viewing an ally's Te-Ke in order to see the MLP skin mod I had just installed... He had 22 HP left, and one way or other I accidentally [..] View

Anyone Crashing Bad?

2:01 am, August 4, 2014 Like bad bad I've NEVER had any problems with any of the patches that Wargaming put out, but this one wow I don't know if it's my computer, but I doesn't seem like it. Ran full virus check, cleaned [..] View

How important is win rate %?

2:01 am, August 2, 2014 Now I'm over 8k battles, I'm trying to get a better idea of what skill level I have in WoT. My stats seem to be steadily improving...my WN8 is going up, average damage and XP are also [..] View

My World of Tanks

2:01 am, August 1, 2014 One thing, I think we don't do enough of on these forums, is talk about the game in a larger sense. It's all well and good to discuss arty changes or gold rounds specifically but I think a lot gets lo [..] View

Best tier 6 medium tank?

2:01 pm, July 30, 2014 So far I have mastered the Jumbo and T-34-85 and want to try some others. I did have the Easy 8 back when I was pretty inexperienced so am thinking about re buying it to try to get my win rate in it o [..] View

BROKEN STEALTH SYSTEM

2:01 pm, July 28, 2014 NOW BEFORE YOU READ THIS POST PLEASE KNOW THAT I AM NOT SAYING THIS GAME IS **** OR NOT PLAYABLE, IM JUST STATING THAT I HAVE SOME MAJOR PROBLEMS WITH IT, THAT ID LIKE TO SEE BE MORE POLISHED OR FIXED [..] View

KV-1S without the 122

2:01 am, July 26, 2014 The big boom is great, but the time between shots is a real pain especially on maps without a lot of cover. Does this tank do well with the other guns available? View

Statistics in XVM

2:01 pm, July 25, 2014 After learning the game I learned about the statistics and tried to become a better player to be more useful for the team. I stopped at tier IV for now and try to learn how to use the different vehicl [..] View

M103 Gun Depression

2:01 am, July 24, 2014 M103 has one of the weakest gun depressions for the American heavy line. It's especially abysmal for what is supposed to be a standoff mountain-top tank. Add the other -2 degree depression to give thi [..] View

T9 is so close, yet so far

2:01 pm, July 23, 2014 Dear redditors, today I realized that I have been playing this game two and a half years. I am not a hardcore player, nor am I a true casual - I play when I want to / can and I'd like to thin [..] View

Thoughts and Gripes/

2:01 pm, July 21, 2014 Alright all, new to the forum not to the game. I have played since the beta off and on. I like the concept of the game, the fact that it's free is a plus especially in this economy. The graphics [..] View

A jumble of ranting and questions

2:01 pm, July 20, 2014 Let me get this out first: **** MUROVANKA. Obviously the forest is a lot more advantageous to the south as they have that raised camping platform that is literally a here-you-go-i-have-everything-you- [..] View

M7?

2:01 pm, July 20, 2014 I would like to know the current opinion on this little beast, especially with the 6-pdr. I would get the T21 for grind purposes, but I heard it sucks and I'm having too much fun hauling *** a [..] View

Hellcat nerfing issue. [READ]

2:01 am, July 20, 2014 Lately, some buggers have raised the issue about nerfing the Hellcat. They have likely never played it before, are not good at using it, and/or do not have fun playing it. Since constantly nerfing one [..] View

Good players badmouthing

2:01 am, July 20, 2014 Im an orange with 5k battles and i encountered on the enemy team a member from G a very skillful clan to my knowledge(he had 60+ winrate). But it was surprising how he badmouthed my team and even me h [..] View

Do you enjoy high tier games ?

2:01 pm, July 18, 2014 If yes, why ? I'm getting really tired of getting hit 800-900-1000+ damage, killing me in 2-3 shots when I'm trying to play my E-50. Especially because so far the worst stock I&#39 [..] View

Bigger Maps for Higher Tiers.

2:01 am, July 18, 2014 I'm sure it's been posted, but I feel like it needs reiterating. The current 1000m X 1000m is too small for the top tiers. At tiers 8+ many of the scouts will spot nearly a quarter of the map at a pas [..] View

Voice mod for TheMightyJingles fans!

2:01 am, July 16, 2014 I made an voice mod in honor of the great and MightyJingles. The main post is over in the NA server forums. Here is the link: http://forum.worldoftanks.com/index.php?/topic/366045-91-themightyjingles- [..] View

Better Business Model for a Better Game

2:01 pm, July 15, 2014 I really do believe that the current business model of this game is preventing all of its players from enjoying it better. There is possibly a million things that you can change to make the game bette [..] View

Some observation about skill based MM and steamrolls

2:01 pm, July 14, 2014 Fans of skill based MM usually point out how much more fun the game would be if we only had skill based MM. In their reasoning a skill based MM would mostly prevent steamrolls, which are seen as borin [..] View

Artillery: The class we love to hate. My views and suggestions for making artillery bearable and playable.

2:01 am, July 14, 2014 It is not news to anyone on this subreddit that artillery is a hugely controversial part of WoT. From "Finger of God" to "Sky Cancer" and (just last night) &quo [..] View

Artillery reloading mechanics, adding to artillery game-play depth.

2:01 am, July 14, 2014 My idea is actually prettysimple and represents a real life phenomenon that should make sense to all players. If artillery is stationary for a momentit should reload faster than it does when it moves. [..] View

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