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The new OP WN8 farming?

4:03 pm, October 19, 2014 Any old hand at this game will remember the 105mm HEAT spam PZ IV / M4 farming that was rampant from between when premium shells became available for credits until 105mm HEAT pen got nerfed from 150 t [..] View

What to do with the "free" Fury crew?

4:03 pm, October 15, 2014 This is if you are running a US med line and have a crew to grind in it.  Obviously if you don't have a US med crew to put in it the free crew comes in handy.  But for those of us wi [..] View

Best tier for grinding crew skills

5:03 am, October 10, 2014 I've got a couple of lines I'm grinding up right now that I'm at a pretty low tier (Cruiser III, Luchs, and T-46).  When I first started WOT I was like most newbies and rushed up the tiers pr [..] View

Help me decide: T-62A or Obj140 for Random?

4:03 pm, October 4, 2014 OK, I am milling over this for a week now. I have the Obj140 but drive it mostly in CW / Ultimates and like it fine. I also have an Obj268 with a monter crew gathering dust. I have the T-62A unlocked. [..] View

RDTT2: Recruiting again! Join us for Stronghold Stompings and general shenanigans.

5:03 am, October 1, 2014 Often imitated, never duplicated, the only RDDT clan with a female commander is looking for a few more tankers to join us in our quest to bring drunkeness, *****, and destruction upon those who oppose [..] View

Why the SU-100M1 isn't that bad

5:03 am, September 25, 2014 I've played the SU-100M1 all the way through (and a little more), and I am one of the few that actually really likes it. Everyone's complaining that it sucks, but I will try to help and let people see [..] View

Transfer of crew from low tiers to high tiers no longer as before

5:03 am, September 24, 2014 Recently , I got T21 and wanted to transfer the crew of M7 to this one. My crew have 97%, But when I transfered, the level of the crew become red 45%. Before when I transfered the crew, it rested same [..] View

Why is crew skill level so ridiculously important for camo?

5:03 am, September 23, 2014 Experiment: Take a 100% crew (without camouflage training), and a 50% crew, and play the same tank using as much camo cover as possible. The difference is astrofuckingnomical. Like, I never, ever expe [..] View

Mentor skill question

5:03 am, September 18, 2014 I put the mentor skill on my T29 commander.  It gives additional experience to all the crew, excepting the commander.  I was expecting the reload (now 9.41 seconds with BIA, rammer, [..] View

Crew Skill Reset Weekend & Centurion, Chaffee Skills

4:03 pm, September 15, 2014 Hello all. With the news about there still being the possibility of an FV4202 tier 8 premium, I will try to keep working on the Comet, etc. However, my crew is bad because they because they have been [..] View

What are some recommended crew skills for someone a little over halfway through the Russian medium line?

5:03 am, September 9, 2014 I've just finished grinding 6th sense, and have camo on the rest of my crew, but after that I'm not sure what to do. submitted by CirnoNewsNetwork [link] [2 comments] View

Next perk for my KV-1S commander/crew. (Soon to be KV-85)

4:03 pm, September 7, 2014 So when I was young and stupid, or rather a massive noob, I decided to go strait for six sense on my KV-1S commander instead of using repairs to get it to 100% then swapping it out for six sense, but [..] View

Tips for Credits

2:01 pm, August 30, 2014 I would like that you suggest me BEST WAYS to farm credits. I dont spend money on games so you can assume i dont have premium time or prem tonks . I already bought KV-1(full crew,equip) long time ago [..] View

9.3: WG did the do.

2:01 pm, August 28, 2014 Source: http://forum.worldoftanks.asia/index.php?/topic/44290-93-supertest-patch-notes/ New high-tier light tanks added: U.S.A.: T37 (Tier VI), M41 Walker Bulldog (Tier VII), T49 (Tier VIII). U.S.S.R [..] View

Brand new to the game. Read through the guide, but I feel I need a video to help. Anyone know of a basic rundown of upgrading (researching?) tanks, crew, getting new tanks?

2:01 am, August 22, 2014 I often see many videos trying to ELI5. I saw one on Hawken and it helped immensely. Anyone have any YT videos they would recommend for a basic understanding of the game? Please :) This game is fun f [..] View

Artillery is good, because its fun

2:01 am, August 20, 2014 There is nothing more fun than ruining someone's day in my arties. I can't wait to get my T92, I just need 20k more exp and I will be throwing 240mm howitzer shells instead of 203's. I run full [..] View

Help with clarification on crew?

2:01 am, August 20, 2014 Hi! I've been driving my T-150 long enough to finally get a proper 110% crew from 50% (well, almost. 108% is close enough), a long grind, I know. What I need to know is how the whole training/ [..] View

Explain experience to me

2:01 am, August 14, 2014 I really should know how this works after 5000 games but honestly I don't. How does experience accumulate and how is it allocated to your account? XP? Free XP? Crewman? Does TD XP count towards the he [..] View

A lot of talk about light tanks lately..The fact is..they are very much under-classed because of mediums.

2:01 pm, August 13, 2014 First off, before I get more into why light tanks are semi useless...WG has taken a total turn against light tanks just with the maps. This has been discussed so much. The most obvious example is Seve [..] View

General "progress" strategy?

2:01 am, August 13, 2014 Hey all, I played WoT for like a week a while back. And I must say, I was pretty bad at it. I rushed trough the tanks, each of them with a new 50% crew and I got my *** kicked. I figured it was becaus [..] View

HUD dissapearing

2:01 am, August 9, 2014 I need help with this bug-error in in battle HUD dissapearing... I can only see the reticle, everything is gone, the map, the damage panel, the team list, even the Tab and Esc button didn't work... It [..] View

ARTY, and the lack there of

2:01 am, July 21, 2014 I have posted several time on this matter, within the arty page, but to no lack luster. So I am going to put it here into the general discussion.. WG has been reducing the ability of artillery, due t [..] View

How bad did I **** up?

2:01 pm, July 20, 2014 On the cent 7/1 right now, elected not to grind to the fv4202 because fv4202. For the third skill on the cent 7/1 crew, I took repairs since my tracks tend to eat a lot of shots and also because its t [..] View

M7 Priest and crew, 2nd armored Division (1946)

2:01 pm, July 14, 2014 submitted by Watchung [link] [16 comments] View

Even on large tanks, camo CAN be made more effective than you'd think

2:01 am, July 13, 2014 When I first started reading about camo mechanics, I repeatedly read not to concern myself with camo on tanks that are very large or heavy tanks, because heavies wont benefit much from it, and dont ne [..] View

A noob tomato looking to turn green

2:01 am, July 9, 2014 So I decided to check this game out this past weekend and it turns out it might have been the worst time for it with the 5x weekend. I ended up in tier fours nearly in tier fives and all that. I manag [..] View

The Most Bizarre WWII USA Tank

2:01 am, July 9, 2014 Ok I just got 3 words...WHAT THE HECK! The Alien version of the T57 Heavy. The most feard tank to look at if it was in game. Behold!!! This Is The Chrysler TV-8 Medium tank. Ok so I do [..] View

Mod identification help

2:01 am, July 7, 2014 Ok so before the 9.1 update I had a mod or xvm config that would give very specific info about the skills for your crew, instead of the sometimes vague info the standard game gives. But for instance l [..] View

How to drop reload time?

2:01 am, July 7, 2014 I have a quick question. Basically what is the lowest reload time on the is6? Currently I have 9.66 and one person said they had 8.92. I have 100% crew, BIA, Rammer, and vents. What else could drop th [..] View

Object 261, Bat Chat 58, or M53/55

2:01 am, July 4, 2014 I'm trying to decide on an artillery piece... I'm not a particularly experienced or dedicated arty player so if someone with more experience with these tanks could give their input, I& [..] View

Soft Stats or Confirmation Bias?

2:01 am, June 26, 2014 Been playing the ARL lately. Noticed that the 105mm Canon 13TR has good alpha but terrible gun handling. Compared to my other Tier VI heavy, it isatrocious at anything but close range or fully closed [..] View

Base Reset at 100% - the best RNG I had all weekend.

2:01 pm, June 15, 2014 ****** Quality Gfycat (Anybody who knows how I can get it to use the HD video, I'd really appreciate you passing that along!) HD Video (Sound is a little loud, but this is the way to watch it [..] View

Improve the UI/MiniMap

2:01 am, June 7, 2014 Now that I'm on a league team, where mods aren't allowed, this games crappy UI has become a serious issue. Fixing it with mods is no longer an issue. So all I can do is suggest that many of them get i [..] View

Whiners in general

2:01 am, June 7, 2014 Today while training my T57 crew, I was having an excellent battle in my T14. I didn't notice until after the game when I got a pm, then I reviewed the game. Apparently this guy was ranting all throug [..] View

Looking for suggestions for Skills/Perks for my VK 16.02 Leopard

2:01 am, June 2, 2014 Formerly one of my least favourite tanks (I even preferred the AMX 40 to it at one point), the Leopard has really grown on me in the last month or so, being both a fun tank to play and, statistically, [..] View

Moving the Crew to Tier 10 Tank.

2:01 am, May 31, 2014 So right now, I am 40.000 Experience away from unlocking the Obj.140. I love my T-54, and I will definately keep it, as I want to unlock the T62-A, and continue to spread my rotten Russian germs all o [..] View

A few questions from a lurker

2:01 pm, May 29, 2014 Hello tankers of Reddit. I wonder if you would be so kind as to help me with a few questions I cant seem to find an answer to on the interweb: 1) Regarding WN8 or other, I use this mainly as a persona [..] View

Why is it when you get a new tank you gat very bad MM?

2:01 pm, May 27, 2014 I have had this happen to me on more then just 1 tank. I just got a new AT-7. So far I am 1 win and 6 losses The losses are not good fights. These were just total clock cleanings. When you have a st [..] View

Help please! Ammo and Modulars going CRAZY in game!

2:01 am, May 18, 2014 Needing noobish help, can't find anything in google, might be looking for the wrong thing. Ammo and Modulars changing order randomly in battles. Not all the time. Only mod installed is xvm, except [..] View

Tanker ranks

2:01 pm, May 15, 2014 Hi there In a break of tradition, I am actually going to have a legitimate suggestion. I am working hard to get my tanker's rank up to Major, on at least one of my tanks, just to make my friend, w [..] View

What is the most fun Russian line (for me?)

2:01 pm, May 15, 2014 hi there; I played a lot of the Russian lines, at tier 6 in most lines. But the most I played is the IS-7 line, I had IS8 but the tank was so frustrating for me to play (i HATE it when i brawl and i m [..] View

Good morning fellow tankers.

2:01 pm, May 8, 2014 hello, here's another discussion, please enjoy. i'd like to suggest to you all the SU-100Y soviet tier 6 premium Tank destroyer. Lets talk gear. -So it has a Tier 8, 130mm Gun. (26 ammo) It d [..] View

I don't own an American heavy tank crew, however I really want a T34. Need some suggestions.

2:01 am, May 8, 2014 I have 8 tier X's, with 1 of them being the IS-7 Soviet Heavy. I have previously owned a T-29, got ace tanker in it in 22 battles and then sold it for reasons that I can't remember it [..] View

Banning Policy - Might consider individual cases

2:01 pm, May 6, 2014 I submitted a ticket to WoT after being banned for a team **** [I shot the guy but did not **** him, but was banned anyway]. Team kills that are on purpose is something I loath. I finally was permitte [..] View

M5 Stuart, a tricky beast.

10:05 pm, May 2, 2014 I just rebought my M5 Stuart for the lolz because it was on sale. Outfitted with fresh 75% crew, camo, camo net, binocs and optics. This thing is a BEAST when used correctly. I usually mount the 75mm [..] View

Fourth skill for Tiger 1 crew.

2:01 pm, May 2, 2014 So I'm getting close to the 4:th skill on my tiger crew, and I'm not really sure where to go from here. I use automatic fire extinguishers so fire fighting seems kinda superflous. my i [..] View

Chrysler TV-8 - missing US tank

10:05 pm, April 29, 2014 With no obvious reasons developers missed in the 50's developed a prototype of the U.S. medium tank - the most advanced and futuristic design of those years. Here is a brief description of this tank: [..] View

clueless with Lorraine39 L AM

2:01 pm, April 29, 2014 I am currently going through TD and SPG lines and getting ace tanker mastery badges from each without much problems, but this french Lorraine39 L AM is just so hopeless. Does anyone have good clues ho [..] View

The 5 Simplest Habits to Success

10:05 am, April 27, 2014 I'm writing this as a follow up to an older thread, "The Top 10 Mistakes for Newcomers to Avoid", link here: http://forum.worldoftanks.com/index.php?/topic/339748-the-top-10-mistakes-for-new [..] View

What should Wargaming do to light tanks?

10:05 am, April 26, 2014 http://ftr.wot-news.com/2014/04/24/24-4-2014/ "- details on LT buff will be disclosed later, the goal of the buff is to make the LT class more popular and easier to play" Light tanks i [..] View

How to improve Historic Battle Queues

2:01 pm, April 24, 2014 First off I really enjoy the Historic Battle options. Here are some simple in theory suggestions. 1.) Your garage may already house multiple tanks thatqualify for historical battles. Create the abi [..] View

How do I AMX 12 t?

10:05 am, April 23, 2014 I'm fairly familiar with scouts and auto loaders. I do pretty well (for me) in them but I can't seem to get the 12 t to work for me. It seems slow. The gun seems okay but I can&#3 [..] View

Tier 8 American Heavy and Medium unlocked - some questions

10:05 pm, April 17, 2014 After much waffling about what lines I thought I'd like and trying various things, I have finally progressed to the point of unlocking the Pershing and the T32. I have some questions about eac [..] View

Waffentrager e-100 Optics vs Binocs for semi-aggressive

10:05 pm, April 14, 2014 I need suggestion because I can't choose between the two. If the max view range goes over 500m binocs is the clear winner. With optics the Waffle has max of 475m ( 420 + 10% optics +2-3 % crew, which [..] View

Convert Experience to Apply to Crew Skills/Perks

10:05 pm, April 11, 2014 We already have in place the ability to spend gold to convert experience to research. I would like to suggest the same option be allowed to more quickly upgrade your crew, if you so choose. The crew u [..] View

Lessons Learned After My First year

9:05 pm, February 17, 2014 TL;DR: Lessons learned from my year playing WOT...Read the forum guides they help immensely. My 1st WOT birthday is today soI thought I would writeabout what I have learned over this year to help an [..] View

The Panzer 2 G

9:05 pm, February 13, 2014 Panzer 2 G is a tier 3 German light tank, located in the panzer 3/4 line. It is my fandourite tank and this is the reasons why GUN It gets a tier 5 autoloader, similar to the Luchs. It fires 6 ***** [..] View

Noob Question: Can you use a small 1st Aid Kit on a "dead" crew member?

9:05 am, February 12, 2014 If so, what is the difference between "dead", and "injured" or "taken out"? The crew messages after taking a critical hit seem to suggest there i [..] View

Youtube video series - Passive Scouting Locations

9:05 pm, February 1, 2014 [Most Recent: El Halluf, Southwest Start(revised for the new v8.10 map)] When WoT turned my awesome T-50-2 into a portly MT-25, my fun as a "MotoGP Scout" was sadly crushed. From the ashes [..] View

Noob question about crew retraining

9:05 am, January 29, 2014 Okay so. I know you can transfer your crew from tank to tank to have them retain their Skills & Perk progression, but if I retrain a crew from Tank X to tank Y, do they lose their 100% (or hig [..] View

What l'd like to see in HE & SPGs

9:05 am, January 26, 2014 Hello. This is not going to be a thread about boosting artillery, because artillery is still very clearly overpowered. Whoever thinks otherwise, without a doubt does not know how to play this game. l [..] View

Question for those on the Test Server.

9:05 am, January 25, 2014 Using the new crew management options: If you tell a tank to load the last used crew, does that crew need to be in the barracks, or will it pull them out of whatever tank they are in? submitted by [..] View

So which tier IX (crew) to *promote*

9:05 pm, January 18, 2014 So, that I'm anywhere near close, but have been wondering what to do when times comes; when I unlock the T57 Heavy, which of the crews (have to be from one of my US tanks, right?) from current [..] View

Churchill III Crew & Equipment?

9:05 am, January 7, 2014 A friend bought a Churchill III today and asked me to come over and play it this evening ... claiming it was "fun". Fun?! Bullshat! It's slower than a constipated squat ... and it's the s [..] View

Object 416: The unsung hero of our generation - Magical combination - The Guide

9:05 am, January 1, 2014 I read on a bunch of post on the official forums, and even here on how terrible the Object 416 is. Fear not Comrade. Object 416 is possibly one of the best tanks in tier 8, severely underrated. Everyo [..] View

Having a hard time in my Churchill VII

9:05 pm, December 31, 2013 I am having an awful time making the Churchill VII work. I have it manned with a 100% crew, and all modules are researched. The armor seems completely ineffective. I suspect I am angling it wrong, but [..] View

Obj 268 pros, help a guy out please...........

9:05 pm, December 20, 2013 I seemed to do quite well coming up the Su line. Some of my best winrates are in those tanks. SU85=60% SU100=56% SU152=57% ISU=51% OBJ 704=56% OBJ 268=33%...!!!WTF? Did anyone else have a har [..] View

What to do with my crews?

9:05 pm, December 14, 2013 I just bought my WZ-120. So my question is: Should I move my WZ-132's crew with 1 skill, working on 2 to the WZ-120 or Move my Type 62's crew working on their first skill to the WZ-120 or Buy a w [..] View

How it Works : Accuracy, Aimtime, Dispersion... as impacted by skills/equipment/modules

9:05 am, December 13, 2013 This came up in an alternate thread, but required a more detailed explanation that I felt needed to be put out there, because there's apparently still some confusion and lack of understanding [..] View

Artillery help?

9:05 pm, December 3, 2013 Ok, I need some help with artillery. I used to play arty a lot, but then 8.6 hit, and I ended up selling my M12. I still have the crew, but the problem is that now I have no confidence while running a [..] View

Why is my premium Lowe and T-34 always in a tier 9 or 10 battle?

9:05 am, November 21, 2013 Wargaming, Everyone I have talked to, say that the T-34 and Lowe always in a tier 10 mach with a few tier 9 matches and a rare tier 8 match. I certainly can not recall the last time I was in a tier 8 [..] View

PSA : Never, EVER drop secondary skills for silver, retrain crew to new tank for silver.

9:05 pm, November 19, 2013 Ok, I keep seeing this suggested by people, and it makes my head hurt for the sheer awfulness. Here's the failscheme in a nutshell : People say that briefly having a 90% crew is easy to avoid [..] View

Would it benefit my medium crew, to play in a premium td for faster leveling crew skills?

9:05 pm, November 16, 2013 Hi fellow redditors Im a beginner at WoT, around 2k. My question is the following: Would it benefit my medium crew, to play in a premium td for faster leveling crew skills? example the VK. 30.02D and [..] View

T20

9:05 am, November 9, 2013 Hello again, Well after taking some time to think about where to spend my free XP, I figured with the recent purchase of my SP that it would be a good time to move ahead to the T20. So I got it unlock [..] View

The Chi-Nu Kai Review, the new tier 5 Japanese premium

9:05 am, November 1, 2013 SO the first of the Japanese tanks is upon us and as per the Wargaming usual, have delivered it shortly before the Japanese tree is released. As such, I have bought the tank to train up a medium crew [..] View

Probing on the Essence of Chaffee Gameplay

10:05 pm, October 23, 2013 Exhibit screenshot Exhibit replay 86% average camo skill Chaffee crew, no sixth sense. early-game bush passive scouting in the marsh land phase -> mid-game clinging to my camo trying to stay al [..] View

29 y.o. 56% win rate. Looking to learn more.

10:05 am, October 22, 2013 Hi!   I haven't been in a clan and would like to try one out. I consider myself good at this game, but I know there is always someone better out there and I'm looking to learn how to [..] View

To keep T29 or not.

10:05 am, October 17, 2013 I overthink things a lot sometimes it gets annoying; so help me out here. I love my T29. I've elited the tank with 350% crew, and have been playing on it just because I like it. I've a [..] View

Russian tank destroyers; repairs or camo?

10:05 pm, October 6, 2013 I just got to 100% on my russian td crew, and was wondering if it would be worth getting camo instead of repairs for the first skill? I'm at the SU100 now, and will be going down the SU152 lin [..] View

E-100 Crew skills, retrained from Tiger2 + loader from the hummel's.

10:05 pm, October 1, 2013 Hello! In a few days I will get myself a brand new E-100 and I am trying to plan which crew skills I should get. I have a used tiger 2 that I am not enjoying that much since I got the E-75 because it [..] View

New tank retrain, different crew related skills

10:05 am, October 1, 2013 I'm curious if I were to take my cruiser III crew, where my commander doubles as a radioman, and earned a radioman skill for my commander. Then transfered that commander to another tank, retra [..] View

Crewskills for the British TD line

10:05 pm, September 20, 2013 (I couldn't find anything on this with the search bar.) I've reached 100% in AT-2 (can recommend, pubbie ****** machine), and I don't know what skill would be the best for my c [..] View

EU players, is the 112 good for money making ?

10:05 am, September 13, 2013 I play on the NA server and I want to get the 112 mainly for money making, and as second purpose for crew, but the money is most important. Does it do any good on making money ? submitted by Phantom [..] View

Quick Question: Crew Skill on T-150 to KV-4

10:05 pm, September 12, 2013 What are the most effective second skills for the commander and driver? I have a decent (for the level) crew, was around 60% on the second skill. Previously I had Mentor/repair and Clutch/Smooth. The [..] View

MM proposal

10:05 am, September 12, 2013 Seems that more than half of forum goers (not at all a random sample of players of course) want skill based MM. Or something like that, they are loud in any case. Opponents to skill-based MM are vigor [..] View

Tankers with the FV215b (183)!

10:05 am, September 4, 2013 How is your FV215b (183)? Is it worth the grind? What's your average damage? What tank do you fear most while playing your FV215b (183)? What loadout (Crew, equipment, ammo) do you use? Thank [..] View

Russian TD Skills

10:05 pm, August 19, 2013 So I have my first two skills for my ISU line crew, and am a little ways into the third. I would like to hear some perspective on which way to go. My current skills look like this: Commander - 6th sen [..] View

I am bored so what is your favorite tank to play and why?

10:05 am, August 5, 2013 Like the title states, what is your favorite tank and why? My favorite tank is most definitely the Hellcat. I always have fun playing it and I am really good with it. It has an amazing gun, great gun [..] View

[Discuss] I own the M46 Patton and have unlocked the M48 Patton. Which tank should get the veteran crew, and which the new guys?

10:05 pm, July 29, 2013 Preface: I don't yet own the M48 Patton - I need to make another 1,000,000 credits to make the purchase. I've had the crew that's in my M46 for a very long time. They'r [..] View

E-25, your impressions, thoughts, tactics, do/don't?

10:05 am, July 25, 2013 Ive been running it for a while tonight (VBAddict link) and I'm having a blast with it. On paper this paper-panzer hasn't got much. 50/30/30 armour sure isnt anything to write home abo [..] View

Retraining my T-50 crew, found this listed under tanks to retrain... what the hell is the Obj 907?

10:05 pm, July 24, 2013 submitted by ZeReaperofZeath [link] [22 comments] View

3x crew xp weekend!

10:05 pm, July 18, 2013 What I will do is train a few new commanders to first skill (sixth sense) by putting a new commander in an old tank crew, so he gets accelerated every single game plus x3. So he gets x6 XP every game. [..] View

What determines track repair speed with a 50% crew?

10:05 pm, July 15, 2013 I thought of something.. if you have a 50% crew, what determines your repair speed? Is the repair speed the same for a light tank or heavy tank with 50% crew? Does weight and damage inflicted to the [..] View

Camo Effectiveness on Stug

10:05 pm, July 5, 2013 How great is the stug's camo when paired up with 100% crew, all crew with Camo skill, Camo net & camo painting, Keep in mind im looking in refrence to a best possible game where i am the top tier [..] View

HE or AP more effective against arty?

10:05 am, June 19, 2013 So basically, I'm driving around my ELC dodging a million shots while riding through cover and then I finally reach the arty. Should I use the AP or HE shells against the arty that I'm [..] View

Probably the best match i have ever had in this game [IS-3].

10:05 pm, June 13, 2013 First win of the day, lets get it done. Load up crew, IS-3, ready to go. I enter a mixed battle of tier 6-8, (quite neat) and proceed to pop up some of the enemy tanks 1 by 1. Brawling with a T29 and [..] View

FIX RNG involvement (or should i say random luck)

10:05 am, June 13, 2013 Hi everyone, let me start by saying prepare for this to be lengthy. Most of you who play this game probably consider yourselves "unlucky" or "unfortunate" well technically your cor [..] View

No Names for German Heroes!?

10:05 pm, June 8, 2013 As a tribute to the great German industrialists and engineers that made the machines that fought so bravely in WWII, I ground up the German heavy tech tree until I reached the unstoppable Tiger II (mo [..] View

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