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Do people really think arty is OP, or do you think it is just an emotional reaction?

5:03 am, October 22, 2014 For tiers 6-10: 12.2% of vehicles average over 1 ****/game, only 3.8% amongst arty. 41% of vehicles have over 50 percent winrates, only 38% amongst arty. Arty represent 13% of the tanks in these tiers [..] View

KMaus, any news on the super secret awesome super mission you mentioned?

4:03 pm, October 19, 2014 Concerning your post found here: http://forum.worldoftanks.com/index.php?/topic/392721-free-togs-for-all/page__st__120__pid__7915051#entry7915051      Speculation on t [..] View

Clan RARTY is recruiting.

5:03 am, October 18, 2014 Hello and Greetings from Clan RARTY. If you are reading this you are likely a person looking for a clan and as it happens we are a clan looking for people. We are an amateur MLP clan concentrating on [..] View

Developers' Q&A session in WGKR 16.10.14

5:03 am, October 17, 2014 source : http://www.inven.co.kr/webzine/news/?news=119971 summary Alexander Tarasevich - Game & UX designer Alexander Derkch - CW programming manager For the reward of the personalised mission [..] View

Fury Premium time

5:03 am, October 17, 2014 Couldn't find anywhere that this seemed to fit, but I just got an email congratulating me on my performance in the Fury thing. It says I get 1 week of premium. I'm certainly not complaining, but I did [..] View

Leo On Track: Guide+Replays

4:03 pm, October 15, 2014 Preface: My stats in the leo, http://i.imgur.com/JyNeD1L.jpg A wonderful (very generous) benefactor on reddit is gifting me a fury e8 if I do a leo 1 guide as well as guide him a bit in game, so here [..] View

Spam protection dossier?

5:03 am, October 14, 2014 So I just died in a game and went back to the garage, only to be immediately taken to the login screen and be shown a popup that says that my connection has been lost for "Reason: spam_protection [..] View

Calculating when you will reach a certain wn8.

5:03 am, October 13, 2014 Im just wondering if theres any way of calculating when I will become unicum. I have a 2.7k wn8 in the last 7 days and 2.4k wn8 in the last 1k games (not padding, average tier of 9). Is there anyway u [..] View

T6 Skirmishes - Please share tanks and stategies

5:03 am, October 13, 2014 So today I got my first chance to lead a few skirmishes for my clan. We play the tier 6 games due to more people having tanks available. Our current team composition used by the other callers is a com [..] View

T-37 American Light

5:03 am, October 11, 2014 Just got this tank a few days ago. I haven't even unlocked the top guns yet but I am already loving it. I have had some great games so far with this baby. It's speed, though not blazingly fast, is cer [..] View

Are Mastery "Ace Tanker" awards not meant to make any sense when you get one?

4:03 pm, October 9, 2014 I played a game in my Tier 5 M4 Sherman yesterday and I got a Mastery badge.  I was excited of course (its only my fifth one ever), but also very confused.  My WN8 score for the matc [..] View

News of "Aimbot" cheat has surfaced

4:03 pm, October 7, 2014 I'm not going to quote that FTR article, I'm assuming most informed WOT players have already read it. What's disturbing about this news is the fact that it is not possible for WG to [..] View

[META] Rule change involving uncropped screenshots

5:03 am, October 5, 2014 A lot of the time people are posting full screens of their game at whatever res they run to show something in the bottom corner. Not only is it a pain for mobile but it also means you can't see the co [..] View

Today in KV1. And my new playstyle.

5:03 am, October 4, 2014 Today has been a great day in KV1. Good battles, great carries  that oddly high xp earning ability.a go to heavy. Meds on the otherhand I **** on. Some reason I cannot handle ham slice thin a [..] View

Newbs, noobs, beginners - pick the right tank from the start

4:03 pm, October 3, 2014 Tankers.   I have seen a lot of sad posts lately from players with 2k to 5k games who are struggling with the game. Poor win rate, WN8, bad stats, low esteem. I am no guru, so please don't ge [..] View

Battle Commander

5:03 am, October 2, 2014 Hi all,   I had a flash of inspiration this morning as my team was being massacred. Himmelsdorf, Tier 9 match: Our top tier 704, driven by a tomato, had rolled off the hill towards tank alle [..] View

Should their be a minimum/maximum game limit to play certain tiers?

5:03 am, October 1, 2014 I have nearly 3,500 battles now. I got rid of my last tier I tank probably 2700 battles ago, and got rid of my last tier II tank about 1,500 battles ago. Just the other day I decided not to buy the ti [..] View

An discussion regarding "Corridors" topic on FTR.

5:03 am, September 30, 2014 Warning: Very long post ahead, and please read the article on FTR before posting, thank you! http://ftr.wot-news.com/2014/09/26/corridors-really-such-a-problem/   So SS basically stated that [..] View

How many mods is too many?

4:03 pm, September 28, 2014 For the past year i only used 3 mods  - Jimbo gunsight, Locatin minimap and Gnomes guns sounds.   Due to new patch i decided to check out XVM and some mods packs and was amazed how m [..] View

A suggestion for a buff for the IS-4

4:03 pm, September 26, 2014 I'm fairly certain anyone who also owns an IS-4 would agree with me when I say this. The tank feels very underwhelming to play. It has much weaker armor than the IS-7,  it on most terrains is [..] View

Questions since you redditers are awesome (bout tank paths)

5:03 am, September 26, 2014 I seems to have a German fetish. Not quite sure what it is but I keep going back to Germans. I'm currently grinding out both med lines. I have the 3001d fully unlocked now just grinding xp to next tan [..] View

Why exactly are the light tanks the ones that have the toughest matchmaking?

4:03 pm, September 25, 2014 Okay so Im a very new player(around 150 battles) and Ive played light tanks almost exclusively. I read some things on wiki, a little bit of the forums etc. and I realized that light tanks can have ene [..] View

How to improve: Know your tanks and maps. (Not a basic guide)

5:03 am, September 25, 2014 Let's face it. Most of the people on this forum are not bad. They know the mechanics. They know all the weak spots. Map positioning. Spotting. Crew layouts. And all the other stuff. Those threads help [..] View

The reality vs. the most common complaints.

4:03 pm, September 23, 2014 The following are the most common complaints that I see on here and the reality of what I think it actually is. 1)  The RNG is unfair:  If the RNG was unfair, then the game would be [..] View

WGLNA LYNK Recruitment Post.

5:03 am, September 22, 2014 All, The **** no one reads - One of Reddit's War Gaming League North America Bronze league teams is recruiting on account of 3-4 players moving on to other things during the fall break. We will howev [..] View

How do I find some in-game buddies?

5:03 am, September 21, 2014 Where I live, not a lot of people play WoT, which kind of disappoints me. Quite a really nice game if you get past all the toxicity in chat and the difficulty curve. I do have a couple of other PC gam [..] View

A method of Learning the Game

5:03 am, September 20, 2014 Hey guys, I found a peice of a advice for learning World of Warplanes that I thought would apply to World of Tanks. Basically, you get 20 kills in each tier one plane, 25 kills in each T2 plane, and 3 [..] View

9.3 Community Night for NA

4:03 pm, September 19, 2014 Welcome tankers to the 9.3 Reddit Community Night. The activities will be starting at 9pm Eastern, 6pm Pacific. As I don't know the release date for 9.3 is yet, just expect that this community night w [..] View

MM balance

4:03 pm, September 19, 2014 From my observations in random battles, in tier 10 battles specifically, i have noticed that in certain map areas, where one team has deployed higher tier tanks than the other team, results often lead [..] View

Questions about Matchmaking: Determining Battle Tiers and Maps

4:03 pm, September 18, 2014 Two part question concerning how the game's matchmaking system works: The first part of my question concerns how the game determines battle tiers: I have a basic understanding of how the game determin [..] View

Looking for training

4:03 pm, September 18, 2014 Hello everyone, I am looking for someone who can help me. I will soon be closing in on 9k games played. When I started using XVM and actually began paying attention to how well I play I set a goal for [..] View

Bidding farewall to the T57 Heavy

5:03 am, September 17, 2014 What an amazing way to send off what was my first Tier 10 with what was one of the best battles that I have ever fought in this thing. Now, I know that the nerfs for the T57 Heavy have been needed for [..] View

[Rigor] is recruiting!

4:03 pm, September 16, 2014 A buddy and I decided it was time to start our own clan; that clan is [RIGOR]. Were looking for above average players who are actively involved in playing World of Tanks and looking to improve. Wotlab [..] View

Underside armor stats

4:03 pm, September 13, 2014 Has anyone ever gathered armor stats for the underside of the hull of a tank?  It's extremely rare that a tank presents its undercarriage to you, but it does happen especially on certain stee [..] View

Your most embarrassing WR in a specific tank + what is a good sample size

4:03 pm, September 13, 2014 True confessions time.  What is your worst or most embarrassing win rate in a specific tank?  It has to be in something you've played a significant number of games in.   Whi [..] View

Comparison

4:03 pm, September 12, 2014 WARNING LONG POST I do not if this belongs here but hell if it is moved then it is moved. This is a post about another comparedto warthunder staff and play wise. The other game is called Wart [..] View

So after getting down the "basics", how does one keep improving?

5:03 am, September 12, 2014 The basics being the concepts of angling, sidescraping, hull down, general weakspots, general armour profiles, all that jazz. I recently checked my stats and in some places I'm purple, some I'm blue, [..] View

Explain marks of excellence

4:03 pm, September 11, 2014 I'm sorry if this question has been posted before, but I read the explanation of Marks of Excellence by Wargaming and I still don't quite understand them.  From what I gather they are given b [..] View

Imbalance of Tank Types.

5:03 am, September 11, 2014 I don't use winchance, but in pubs when I see their team with 4 out of the 5 heavies top tier and our team with 3 heavies and only one of them are top tier, the chances of us winning are usually not v [..] View

How to prevent Lemming Trains?

4:03 pm, September 10, 2014 The Lemming train is always a fear I have in low win chance games and when I begin to see it happen I kindly suggest some turn around and go the other way. The problem is though they keep going and th [..] View

Patch 9.3 Release Event Idea! (Charity Event benefiting Ropkey Armor Museum) Help me out WoT Community and WG!

5:03 am, September 8, 2014 Dear WG and WoT Reddit, (TL:DR at bottom for those who hate walls of text) When Wargaming had the special event benefiting Bovington Tank Museum (certain % of gold sales being donated) I was amazed a [..] View

Sound mod request

4:03 pm, September 7, 2014 Right! So I'm not sure if this would work but.. I was wondering if it's possible somebody could specifically change the sounds on certain cannon? or Auto loader? When 9.3 releases I would hope for thi [..] View

Worst's Guide On Reducing Your Sodium Levels In World of Tanks. (How To Rage Less)

4:03 pm, September 5, 2014 Warning: wall of text and positive thinking ******** ahead Lately I've been noticing a large increase in the amount of salty players in the world of tanks community. Lot's of rage, lot's of frustratio [..] View

Looking to Join up with one of the Reddit Clans

4:03 pm, September 5, 2014 So, I've been around the game for awhile. I took a bit of a break, but am getting back into it, and am hoping to find a clan. I don't have the best stats out there. I don't think I'm necessarily a bad [..] View

Tank Rental

2:01 am, September 1, 2014 Can you not stand trying to test out a new tank on the test server? I have devised a "tank rental service" for the live servers, so you can get an accurate look at the machines performance. [..] View

Automatic Teak **** monitor is flawed & can be circumvented

2:01 am, September 1, 2014 I submit the "automated team killing monitoring system" is not only flawed but almost useless. Many tankers now know how to circumvent it by keeping track of how many times they shoot team m [..] View

Mission completion tracking not correct

2:01 am, August 31, 2014 Anyone notice that missions that you have to complete a certain number of times are not tracking correctly? View

An overdue topic

2:01 pm, August 30, 2014 Just had this game in my T-28 Prot, 1 one 1 against a SP. Found aut that u can actually miss the top of its turret or hit too low, for something like 5 or 6 times. But I guess the gun on Prot is not t [..] View

[Mod Post] Clan Tag Flair, Live Stream links, & Subreddiquette

2:01 pm, August 29, 2014 Ladies, Gents, and Genderfluid Demi pansexuals, We'd like to brush up on a few items of importance that keep coming up either in public or through moderator mail. Feel free to post questions o [..] View

Buyable exp bonuses

2:01 pm, August 29, 2014 I have been thinking of this for a while, and figured i should put it up for debate, we have the free xp, premium tanks, gold currency, what about being able to buy a x2, 3, or 5 xp bonus per battle f [..] View

Tomato Questions (~130 battles in)

2:01 am, August 28, 2014 I've had a bunch of questions that I thought I would put in one place instead of spamming various threads: How much money do you spend on WoT in a month? How much gold ammo do you buy? I just [..] View

The reason a tier spread of 2 like the matchmaker currently uses is a good thing.

2:01 am, August 27, 2014 This turned out to be longer than I intended, but please bear with me. If not, there's a TL;DR at the bottom. I keep seeing "drunk MM" comments both here on /r/worldoftanks a [..] View

Other events like Twilight of the Gods

2:01 pm, August 26, 2014 Is this going to be a fairly regular thing? Does anybody know? My clan isn't currently big enough to participate in it, but if they are going to be happening with a certain frequency that woul [..] View

It seems there is a significant in-game delay involving enemy guns swinging around to aim/shoot at you

2:01 am, August 26, 2014 I just experienced this phenomenon for the umpteenth time tonight. I own a BDR G1b, so I am painfully aware of its slow aim time and its inaccuracy when firing without any aiming, especially at target [..] View

I found out why German Tanks **** in WOT

2:01 am, August 26, 2014 World of Tanks is a massively multiplayer online game developed by Belarusian company Wargaming, featuring early to mid-20th century era fighting vehicles.[4] It is built upon a freemium business mode [..] View

Correct way to win?

2:01 pm, August 25, 2014 Hello learnedtankers It would appear that the makers of this game propose 2 broad strategies for winning. First is to destroy all enemies, second is to occupy the enemy flag for an amount of time.Bot [..] View

Improving gameplay, I need help

2:01 am, August 25, 2014 Hi guys, I know that most of you read the title and thought: Oh no! Not another one! But actually, it is in some way. I'm here not to ask how to increase WN8, I'm here to ask how to in [..] View

Can you make XVM show only stats for the tank currently driven

2:01 am, August 25, 2014 as the tittle says can you make xvm only show stats from the tank players are currently driving? my reasons for wanting this overall stats are IMO a kind of a shotgunning of what peoples stats act [..] View

Clickers, Seal Clubbers and the lot...

2:01 am, August 25, 2014 So, I need a break from the current On Track, it's a punishment. Read some posts, reread some guides and started thinking... Arty is still a problem in the game. If you can't see it, your logically [..] View

Thoughts on the IS-6?

2:01 am, August 22, 2014 Basically what the title says, but preferably I would like to know about certain aspects, namely Armour, Mobility and Firepower. Also what equipment to use, I'm guessing Rammer, Vert. Stabs an [..] View

What keeps you playing this game?

2:01 pm, August 17, 2014 Any decent player will soon come to realise the immense frustration this damn game can cause. The horrible stock grinds, the cancerous pub games chock full of half wits with zero tactical awareness an [..] View

T-62A Deep Comparison between Obj. 140

2:01 pm, August 16, 2014 So I replied to someones post about him not sure about choosing the Obj. 140 or the T-62A. So I spent literally 30 minutes pampering this reply and thought that it would be good enough to create a top [..] View

Spend the first 30 seconds holding "Tab"

2:01 am, August 16, 2014 So..What does hitting Tab do? It shows you the tanks on the enemy team, and, if you are using XVM, win rate, wn8 etc etc. Most players spend the first 30 seconds thinking about where they are going [..] View

WoT mind games?

2:01 pm, August 14, 2014 I've heard several unicum streamers mention this when they are doing certain specific things. That they are playing mind games with their current target. As a curious person, i'm reall [..] View

Feedback/Suggestion - Separate good players from the bad players

2:01 am, August 14, 2014 Yesterday, I had the worst night every playing WOT. I probably played around 20 games and only won one game. The loss wasn't close. It was more like total domination. Novice vs Pros. 15-0, 15-1, 15-2. [..] View

No Arty selection, I'd rather have a "Muzzle Option."

2:01 pm, August 13, 2014 Got the Arty/No Arty argument.. Play it/ and others. Thread's not about that. I'd rather have a "Muzzle"option. I understand that Chat is useful in certain situations, but when a de [..] View

Hi, I'm Most Definitely Not A Reroll.

2:01 pm, August 12, 2014 Hi, I'm Most Definitely Not A Reroll. (Although people seem to think I am, despite the name.) I picked the name after researching this game, since people don't seem to like them, and I didn't want to [..] View

[DEMON] rebuild is afoot!

2:01 am, August 12, 2014 yes the DEMON rebuild is afoot, and we want you (points at you) what do we want out of you you ask? 8,000+ battles tier 8+ 5,000+ Personal Rating can follow orders can give orders (good call [..] View

Panhandle Swamp Yankees is recruiting

2:01 pm, August 10, 2014 This clan is for people who want to have fun with no restriction on age or playing ability. We will have a promotion process, to which certain rights will be given. The only rule we have is to respect [..] View

Unsolvable XVM problems

2:01 am, August 10, 2014 I have redditankers can help me solve them. I have installed, deleted and fresh installed Aslain's XVM config to no avail. The game displays all the xvm features except for the player statist [..] View

Are the only people who complain about SPrem (Gold Rounds)...

2:01 am, August 6, 2014 ... All heavy drivers who rely on nothing other than their armor to see them through a match? Last time I checked, terrain, rocks, some walls, dead tanks, your teammates and just-not-being-where-th [..] View

Angry idea: Your map ping ability should be entirely disabled until you reach a certain winrate and battles played.

2:01 am, August 4, 2014 I'm open to negotiation on the specifics. But I've had quite enough of im_nine_irl (M3 Stuart): Attention to sector C3! im_nine_irl (M3 Stuart): Attention to sector D1! im_nine_irl (M [..] View

A technical question regarding the precise definition of 'accuracy' or dispersion in WOT?

2:01 am, August 4, 2014 Accuracy of any gun can be affected by human error in a big way if the person shooting isnt experienced and doesnt practice regularly. But when a gun's inherent potential accuracy is measured, we aren [..] View

Need help with optimizing certain parts of the graphics.

2:01 pm, August 2, 2014 So i just got a new card and im now able to run the game on high and pull 30-40 fps on average. I wanted to increase this so i dropped it to medium but got no FPS improvement. I want to know what grap [..] View

Equipment Sale! Questions regarding SPG Rammers

2:01 pm, August 1, 2014 Yeayea, clickers sux, etc. I know. That being out of the way, I finally want to get my SPGs outfitted with shell rammers. Thing is, it ****** me off that they need medium caliber rammers up to a certa [..] View

Magically Loosing Credits

2:01 pm, July 29, 2014 Whenever I play, I go into battle and it says that I've earned a certain amount of credits and spent a certain amount? How's that when I don't use any of the consumables manually although they'll auto [..] View

Organizing a "historical" battle

2:01 am, July 28, 2014 Seeing as nobody plays the in game historic battles I've been thinking about getting one (or more) going. At first it would just be tanks of the same country in a certain time period. Later I might tr [..] View

Possibility of making a WoT training/bootcamp subreddit?

2:01 am, July 27, 2014 What I mean by this is a subreddit where "Instructors" (Players who are good at the game that are willing to take some time to help out bad players) post info about training rooms at [..] View

Historical/Gameplay Tracer Colours

2:01 am, July 27, 2014 At the moment, tracers are colours are determined by shell type. I am wondering how people would feel about historical tracer colours in lieu of colours based on shell types. In Star Wars George [..] View

VonCurry's/DennisZodman's T-34-3/112 Module/Consumable/Tank Setup

2:01 pm, July 26, 2014 I'm on parole, and as a thank you to WGing, I want to give back to the community... So here is a poast I made on Wotlabs many months ago, perhaps it can help some of you guys play the 112/T-34-3 bette [..] View

Music and or relaxing sounds to improve play.

2:01 pm, July 24, 2014 How does listening to certain types of music have an effect on your play? Fast music, slow music, orchestral, whatever it may be- I have one friend who swears by listening to relaxing ocean sounds on [..] View

Can anyone explain the KV-2.....? Worst tank of the game?

2:01 pm, July 24, 2014 Okay, so I've now bought the KV-2 for the "3rd" time...... and for the life of me, I can't get it. I've played nearly every tank of the game and I've never played such a bad tank, as well t [..] View

MM and Discipline Reform Now

2:01 am, July 24, 2014 Stop the skewed MM for certain players, and stop the unfair prosecution of retaliation against instigators of team damage, team killing, and "abuse of physics". I realize that Wargaming min [..] View

Tank shooting next to me reduces my camo?

2:01 pm, July 21, 2014 Had a Lowe in a match claim that the only reason he was spotted was because an E75 was shooting right next to him. He claimed the E75 shot, then his (the Lowe's) 6th Sense went off. I know that heavie [..] View

Need help from experienced tankers

2:01 pm, July 19, 2014 Hey, Atm i'm with 40k free experience but i have a problem. Atm i'm playing 10 tanks actively and i don't know which one to go for. When i play i quite like the brawling of th [..] View

The One True Anime Club returns fire~!

2:01 pm, July 19, 2014 ATTENTION ALL ANIME CLUB ENTHUSIASTS It has recently come to my Attention that a certain Anime Club has decided to declare war on the Noble BADGR Anime Club, and this won't be taken lightly~! I [..] View

Codes on Ebay/etc, RU only ?

2:01 am, July 17, 2014 I have the BTSV, a code which I bought off ebay from a nice guy in Poland. I'd like to have the PZ2J as well, and right now on ebay they all specifically say "RU cluster only!&quo [..] View

Help me understand XVM Expected?

2:01 pm, July 15, 2014 http://www.wnefficiency.net/wnexpected/ I've recently been introduced into the world of WN8, however the numbers with the prefix delta confuse me here. Is this the change over a certain period [..] View

Marks of Excellence problem with AL modpack

2:01 am, July 15, 2014 Hello forum community. I have now found out why marks of excellence are blocked in some of my tanks (E25, StuG III G) atm Reason is Aslain's mod pack that i'm using atm. I ran wot in vanilla and i [..] View

Game Suggestions

2:01 am, July 14, 2014 Here are a few suggestions for features that could be implemented into the game. 1) Soft Body Dynamics: When you get hit with a HE shell, have a large caliber AP shell bounce off you, get rammed or [..] View

"Hidden Village" problem

2:01 am, July 13, 2014 So just curious why does like every single tank and/or td ever, seemingly always go valley and never to the village? I get it, seriously I do, the valley is important. That's definitely true but isn't [..] View

A guide to the IS-3

2:01 pm, July 8, 2014 Good Day Tankers! As you can see by the title I am writing a guide for the IS3. I have around 170 battles currently logged in this beast of a tank. Without further ado, lets get started. Contents: [..] View

Credit Farming - What to buy?

2:01 am, July 6, 2014 I ran the numbers and at an average of 20k credits per match it would take me over 300 games to get a single Tier 10 I'm getting close to my first T10(E5) and really don't want to spen [..] View

Noob to noob random musings

2:01 pm, July 5, 2014 Seen and talked to a few other new players online, and a few of you have been discouraged. So random musings... Read the guides. Yeah everyone mentions this but it can't be emphasized enough. I ac [..] View

How to Use XVM Statistics to It's Full Potential

2:01 am, July 5, 2014 *Disclaimer:I am not nor I am I claiming to be some super-skilled player whose advice is never wrong. I am just tired of people complaining about XVM win chance, saying it's either always wrong or tha [..] View

No "July 4th" music or sound while in garage?

2:01 pm, July 4, 2014 I see the fireworks display in the special "Garage" screen, but there are no sounds of the explosions. No Star Spangled Banner or America is playing. All is silent. Is this working as des [..] View

STA-1 Discussion

2:01 am, July 4, 2014 Pros: The DPM is (tied with Indien) for the third highest of any medium tank at tier 8, only being surpassed by the Object 416 and Panther 2. Decent gun handling, especially with Vertical Stabilizers [..] View

Object 261, Bat Chat 58, or M53/55

2:01 am, July 4, 2014 I'm trying to decide on an artillery piece... I'm not a particularly experienced or dedicated arty player so if someone with more experience with these tanks could give their input, I& [..] View

Red_Syns; TZ EST (GMT -5:00); IS-7, 9x2, 8xLots; Looking for Performance/Training Clan

2:01 pm, July 2, 2014 Greetings and Salutations! Red_Syns of the HMS Pain, at your service. I'm a decent/good player, although I'm about five months out of practice due to being on deployment (still another 4-5 months t [..] View

Better Crew Functionality

2:01 pm, July 1, 2014 I was thinking while playing WoT Yesterday, (I know, someone thinking in WoT...) why are the crew members in your tank only ever wounded ? is this an attempt from WG to make WoT "more realistic&q [..] View

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