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Cruiser 3 - which turret?

4:03 pm, October 22, 2014 'upgrade' turret appears worse unless there's a couple of hiden stats that are better. I don't rate the aim time bonus as vastly useful. Then I haven't played it a lot yet.   I do see a lot o [..] View

T14: the best tier 5 premium in the game.

4:03 pm, October 13, 2014 So I was platooned with my clanmate while he was grinding the T-34: MT, when I unlocked the VK30.1H. I had most of the modules unlocked from previous grinds, so all I needed were tank-specific mods (T [..] View

Tiger 1 gun

5:03 am, October 12, 2014 So I just got the tiger and have unlocked the 2nd turret, but not the best gun. I was wondering what was the best gun for me to use while i grind towards the 88. submitted by WildBeast26 [link] [12 [..] View

Lowe still needs preferred MM

4:03 pm, October 6, 2014 With the advent of the matchmaker tier range changes, all the new tanks, and various map changes to encourage brawling, the Lowe is suffering as a result.  Even with the most recent minor buf [..] View

The US light tank branch (opinion/advice from you tankers)

5:03 am, September 30, 2014 Hey, I have a couple of questions regarding the US light branch. So, the first thing is I'm wondering if it is worth it. My favorite branch so far is the medium british line (fast with accurate, fast [..] View

Playing the E50 Tier 9 without the top gun... yes or no?

5:03 am, September 23, 2014 So I just bought the E50, and I have yet to drive it because I wanted to learn more about it.  Obviously all the posts and videos about the tank are with the top gun and its 390 alpha damage, [..] View

T110E5 crew in the wrong spots?

5:03 am, September 22, 2014 Now this is just an interesting thing I noticed while watching a streamer play the E5 earlier today that I hadn't noticed before: The T110E5's crew layout seems to be wrong for a US tank. Or, rather, [..] View

Sherman with GIAT oscillating turret and French autoloader?

4:03 pm, September 20, 2014   Ran into this image on Wikipedia and thought it was interesting.  Apparently the Arab nations were experimenting with Sherman variants at the same time as Israel had its Super She [..] View

IS-3 Help Needed

5:03 am, September 19, 2014 I recently bought an IS-3, and I've been playing like garbage in it. Right now I don't have the upgraded turret, or the BL-9, but I still expected better than this trash. It feels like a slower IS wit [..] View

What tank does this drawing look like?

5:03 am, September 19, 2014 What does this tank look like to you? I know I **** at drawing and all but this is meant to be bad. You must have system of inequalities to make each polygon. So yeah. If anyone can help me though, to [..] View

German heavy tanks versus TDs--don't they do the same thing?

5:03 am, September 12, 2014 Excuse my ignorance as I don't own any high tier German tanks, but from what I've read it seems like the role of most German heavies is to snipe from afar, in which case they aren't really using their [..] View

Tiger II module selection..turret or next gun?

4:03 pm, September 10, 2014 I have only had this tank out in maybe 3 battles to try it out. I have the top motor and radio from previous tanks. I have been saving up my free XP and I am trying to decide if I could get the 2nd tu [..] View

What tank does this (horrible) drawing look like?

5:03 am, September 10, 2014 What does this tank look like to you? I know I **** at drawing and all but this is meant to be bad. You must have system of inequalities to make each polygon. So yeah. If anyone can help me though, to [..] View

Confused About Penetration (Not *that* kind!)

5:03 am, September 10, 2014 Obviously a relative newb, but I'm familiar with WW II tank battles and the guns/armor.  I've been playing around with various Tier 1 and 2 tanks just to work into the game play.   I [..] View

Which Soviet Medium Line?

4:03 pm, September 7, 2014 I eventually want to get an Object 140 (and maybe the other two even later on), but I'm not sure which line to go down.   There's the A-43 line that goes down to the Object 416, which I hear [..] View

So Frustrating

2:01 pm, August 31, 2014 Two part post. One part rant,other part question. So I'm playing the M4 with the 105mm. Splurge and buy me some HEAT ammo. To make a long story short, 6 hits, 2 off the turret,1 off the front, and 3 o [..] View

From FTR: KV1S to get a new gun...

2:01 am, August 31, 2014 Picture of the new S-41: http://ftr.wot-news.com/2014/08/30/9-3-hd-models/ From Wikipedia: KV-85 A KV-1S with the 85mm D-5T cannon in a new turret, with the ball mounted hull machine gun rem [..] View

Convince me the A-44 isn't one of the worst tanks in it's tier.

2:01 am, August 30, 2014 Rear mounted turret, horrible aim time even by russian standards, terrible depression even by russian standards, moderate speed, no armor. What does this tank have going for it that compensates for al [..] View

The Best of Tiers I-V (Opinion Piece)

2:01 pm, August 23, 2014 With my recent purchase of the M41, I have come to own every non-premium tank tier 5 and below in the game excluding the Chaffee (100 more games in the M5 Stuart isn't worth it). I thought I w [..] View

Tank Skin Idea (Cumulative Battles Survived)

2:01 am, August 23, 2014 You know those games where you seem to be invincible? You are bouncing shots left, right, and centre, putting out good damage, and leading the charge. At the end of it all, granted you were able to su [..] View

The Big List: Vehicles that should be included in WoT some day

2:01 am, August 22, 2014 The following is a list of tanks from currently in game countries, in Alphabetic order, that could at some point be put in to World of Tanks. I am not including vehicles, such as the M56 Scorpion and [..] View

"Basic training" game mode.

2:01 pm, August 21, 2014 An idea that I think new and old players alike might enjoy, an expansion of the Karl game mode where every tank is the same and perfectly balanced,but let's add to it a little! We add a medium tank [..] View

M46 help

2:01 pm, August 20, 2014 What is the suggested upgrade order on the M46? I've got mine equipped with rammer, VS, and optics. Currently it's an uptiered Pershing with the 90mm, the stock turret, and the interme [..] View

The caernarvon :( help

2:01 pm, August 20, 2014 I have been playing world of tanks for a while, most of my early stats show how much of a noob I used to be, and as time when on I realized it too. I have played the US medium line all the way to the [..] View

Centurion 7/1 question

2:01 pm, August 17, 2014 Hey folks, currently grinding my way up to the 4202. I'm on the 7/1 and I am trying to decide which module to research next. First let me say that I am going to get all the 7/1 modules before [..] View

Chieftain Mk2, FV215b potential replacement

2:01 pm, August 15, 2014 Wargaming has mentioned that it is considering replacing the FV215b with the Chieftain Mk2.1 Supposedly this will happen around the end of the year, but this might not even go through, and they might [..] View

Moments that make you wonder about people...

2:01 am, August 6, 2014 We've all had moments where we look back at our actions and wonder "why the hell did I pull out sideways in front of that E100?" Well this is dedicated to those moments where [..] View

How to hit-and-run in the ELC?

2:01 am, July 25, 2014 The wiki compares the ELC's gun to a sniper rifle: you can either take the time to aim, or you can shove it up some other tank's *** and pull the trigger. However, the ELC has no turre [..] View

How do you play a-44?

2:01 am, July 23, 2014 This is my first tank with rear mounted turret, and I'm quite not sure how to play this tank. I mostly play heavies, and only other medium lines that I played are the American ones. (Patton, a [..] View

ISU-152 or Rhm.Bwt?

2:01 pm, July 15, 2014 Overall, which would you prefer over the other? And why? The reasons I've seen people like Borsig better is because of the camo. rate (ISU's is not too bad either, correct?), 360 rotating turret, a [..] View

Is there a mod which allows us to change the keybind for locking the turret?

2:01 am, July 10, 2014 Currently, for whatever bizarre reason, Wargaming are not allowing us to re-bind the key to lock a turreted tank's turret, and we have to hold down right click to do this. Note that I am NOT t [..] View

Does anyone else think that the L/71 is a viable option on the Tiger II?

2:01 pm, July 9, 2014 I recently purchased the Tiger II and free XP to get the turret, engine, and first 105. I hated the tank at first because it felt like the gun really let it down so i went back to the 8,8 cm Kw.K 43 L [..] View

The Most Bizarre WWII USA Tank

2:01 am, July 9, 2014 Ok I just got 3 words...WHAT THE HECK! The Alien version of the T57 Heavy. The most feard tank to look at if it was in game. Behold!!! This Is The Chrysler TV-8 Medium tank. Ok so I do [..] View

A guide to the IS-3

2:01 pm, July 8, 2014 Good Day Tankers! As you can see by the title I am writing a guide for the IS3. I have around 170 battles currently logged in this beast of a tank. Without further ado, lets get started. Contents: [..] View

Half Tiers?

2:01 am, July 1, 2014 When you move up in Tiers to say, 6...there seems to bea greater discrepancy between the entry level and fully updated tanks with that Tier match. Example...the KV-1S...where I imagine a few people [..] View

1930 AEM CHAR DE CHASSE - a low tier French tank destroyer?

2:01 pm, June 26, 2014 (I'm aware that Wargaming isn't planning to add in any new tanks for a period of time, but I still like to discuss changes even if they wouldn't be implemented for a while even if they actually did pr [..] View

Best Tier 5+ Premium Credit Making Tank?

2:01 pm, June 22, 2014 So I really need a good credit making tank right now, I need it to have some good armor, a good gun, that can pen a KV-1, I was considering a TOG2 because the TOG is such a trolly tank, I was also thi [..] View

Noob question regarding view range

2:01 pm, June 18, 2014 I have noticed that since 9.1 patch you can actually see what real stats your tank has. For example actual reloading time, view range etc. So, this brings me to my question: why is my actual view rang [..] View

IS help?

2:01 am, June 16, 2014 Seriously, it looks like that every single time I get something that's high tier andpopular in the game, it works against me by failing to **** whatever I'm facing, attracting teams that'll ruin the m [..] View

Have some questions on the premium Matildas and the TOG II

2:01 pm, June 7, 2014 I've allotted myself to purchase either both premium Matildas, or the TOG II. However, I don't know how to play them, and would like help on their pros and cons. Such as, how do I play [..] View

Learning to Aim, Boss, Learning to AIM !

2:01 pm, May 27, 2014 Is RNG calculated at the start of battler per team or is RNG calculated per shot,per tank,per game cause I dont think WG has computers that are good enought to calculate RNG on every shot in every b [..] View

Did the turret on Obj 140 got buffed?

2:01 am, May 25, 2014 So I was checking the Tank Inspector and when I looked into Obj's turret it seemed that its turret is much tougher than that on T62A except for an extra cupola, and when I checked the top of the turre [..] View

So this happened to me today

2:01 am, May 24, 2014 So I was on the common test server, testing the T-54, and on a match, I get really damaged, with around 300 HP left, shots coming from a single tank that was not spotted, and right in front of me, a t [..] View

I have a proposal about the Hellcat

2:01 pm, May 19, 2014 Dear fellow players, I have a proposal about the Hellcat. Take the top turret and 90 mm off the Hellcat, make 2 versions or just keep one version of the stock historical turret, and the 76's, and mov [..] View

russian turret, french gun

2:01 am, May 9, 2014 submitted by se530 [link] [comment] View

VK3002d (I REALLY NEED HELP)

2:01 am, May 8, 2014 Tier 7 mediums have a notoriously bad reputation, which is why I have yet to play one other than the Panther despite owning, eliting, keeping and loving the E8, Vk3001d, Vk3002m (not really a traditio [..] View

Help with a Stock T32

9:05 pm, February 22, 2014 Hey everyone. I recently purchased the T32, and so far, I'm hating it. I bounced a Panthers 70mm lower plate 3 times in a row at point blank. Tanks are penetrating my gun mantle. I'm hating the stock [..] View

Would make a nice tier 8 premium

9:05 am, February 22, 2014 In order to perform factory trials of the S-70 gun and the loading mechanism, LKZ was scheduled to provide NIIAV MV with a production IS-2, equipped with an IS-7 turret, with the 130 mm gun and loadi [..] View

Inquiry: Does crew skill "Snap Shot" help with turretless arty and TDs aim

9:05 am, February 21, 2014 I know this skill works with any tank that has a turret, but does it provide benefit turretless arty and TDs? I've tried looking it up but some sites say it does and some others said it does n [..] View

Getting tired of paying fines for stupid teammates...

9:05 pm, February 19, 2014 So I was in my ISU, on two separate occasions, with my mighty BL-10 mounted. I was lined up, on the **** shot, fully zoomed in, ready to fire once my reticle was perfect. The moment my brain sends the [..] View

My guide to the mighty T32!

9:05 am, February 19, 2014 The T32, under estimated by most. It sits at T8 after the T29 looking like a **** compared to the beast at T7. In reality, this thing is a monster on it's own level. It can wreck havok on the enemy if [..] View

T-54 tracks - when to upgrade?

9:05 pm, February 13, 2014 I have the top turret, gun, and engine mounted as well as all necessary eqpt without need to upgrade the tracks. My question is, do I go forward straight to the Obj 140 and T-62A or should I upgrade t [..] View

Penetrations = 2 , damage = 0 ?

9:05 am, February 12, 2014 How is there penetration without damage? I'm in an M8A1 enemy is in a Excelsior. I'm backed up against a too steep hill to go in reverse and there was not enough time to turn around. He got up to m [..] View

Tier 9 TD Gun Preferences

9:05 pm, February 6, 2014 I'm curious as to what your opinions are regarding Tier 9 (or in most cases, Tier 8/9) TD guns. This is not the thread for discussion of vehicles; simply firepower. Most of them are quite larg [..] View

Tips For Playing the IS-3?

9:05 am, February 5, 2014 I've had the IS-3 for about a week now, and have managed to upgrade the turret, so now I have all the upgrades except the BL-9 and 100mm gun, and the tier 10 radio. Nearly every game I play, w [..] View

How does the shell loading mechanism on the Waffentrger auf E100 work?

9:05 am, January 22, 2014 Unlike other autoloaders, the Waffen E100 has a half exposed turret, which shows a very curious loading structure - anyone knows or has theories on how it's supposed to work? That lever thingi [..] View

Tips on grind to T29?

9:05 am, January 14, 2014 I recently bought the T1 heavy, and I'm asking here the best way to play the T1 heavy, M6, and T29. On the T1, I have unlocked&equipped the upgraded turret, gun, and suspension. And I& [..] View

Counterintuitive tanks

9:05 pm, January 12, 2014 So, everyone knows you shoot tanks in the hull, not in the turret, right? Unless its a Waffle. And driving backwards is slower. Unless its a crusader 5.5". What are some tanks that break the [..] View

Scout MM

9:05 pm, January 8, 2014 It's obvious that light tanks are in a bad place right now. Even WG has admitted this. I propose a simple solution that could be implemented very quickly. Scouts should have 2 MM's. Normal tier [..] View

Is the IS-7 the worst tier X?

9:05 pm, January 5, 2014 * Before starting my theme I'm Latino and I do not speak perfect English so help me with google translator Is the IS-7 the worst Tier 10???? Probably the people will say: no, are u serious? The IS-7 [..] View

Type 61 issues (Japanese line underpowered or OP?)

9:05 am, January 5, 2014 The Type 61 has some serious issues after playing it for a bit and some hidden stats I have good experience with the E-50, and the T-54 to compare roughly what constitutes a standard T9 medium tan [..] View

WZ-120: T-54 without HEAT spam

9:05 pm, January 2, 2014 We all know T-54 is pretty damn OP with HEAT. Now imagine that, with better turret armour, and less need for expensive HEAT rounds. That's the WZ-120. It's easy to overcome its weaknes [..] View

Object 416: The unsung hero of our generation - Magical combination - The Guide

9:05 am, January 1, 2014 I read on a bunch of post on the official forums, and even here on how terrible the Object 416 is. Fear not Comrade. Object 416 is possibly one of the best tanks in tier 8, severely underrated. Everyo [..] View

New, better gun for the T32

9:05 am, December 31, 2013 The T32 has no really stand out good gun for its level. Along with having mediocre hull armor and an amazing turret, which is situation, it has nothing that stands out. View

Need advice about heavy tanks

9:05 pm, December 30, 2013 So I just finished the stock E75 grind this weekend with the 2x wins, although I hated it in the beginning with the miserable stock turret, now that I've got it fully upgraded I can't [..] View

Buff suggestions for the AMX 40...

9:05 pm, December 16, 2013 I have over 1000 battles in this tank and trust me, I know how bad it is. No matter what you do, you'll be hard pressed to find a situation to actively contribute in. It has only 2 things and those [..] View

A look at what a second British TD line might look like

9:05 pm, December 14, 2013 This is a example of a new TD line for the British, based on my own ideas on what tank should fit what tier. This line is a combination of turrets/non-turrets. The line branches off from the Alecto, a [..] View

Apparently, I'm a "seal clubber." Help me understand the resentment.

9:05 pm, December 8, 2013 So in a low-tier match yesterday in my T18, immediately 4 or 5 teammates began harping at me about being a "seal clubber." ("So, do you like clubbing seals? Do ya? DO ya?&am [..] View

Tribute to great Ideas and You! By IronHide77777 "V 1.0"

9:05 am, December 8, 2013 This post is a compilation of all the posts that I have Checked out/Created/or found to offer wonderful ideas. I have even posted some of the Persons who's post inspired me to come up with this variat [..] View

KV-4 suggestions please

9:05 am, December 5, 2013 I am currently grinding modules on my KV-4. I have it stock + 122mm. I could currently equip it with a GLD and/or STAB from my depot, but don't want to waste gold taking them off if they aren't good t [..] View

Should WG add the M51 Super Shermen and Shermen VC Firefly as prem tanks?

9:05 pm, December 1, 2013 History of the Super Shermen In 1953, an Israeli delegation visited France to examine the new AMX 13 light tank. The tank was armed with the high-velocity 75 mm gun CN 75-50, a development of the Germ [..] View

SUGGESTION: Module Based MM

9:05 am, December 1, 2013 Recently, I've been grinding though many tanks that absolutely **** as stock. My idea is this : Module Based MM. This means that certain modules have more "MM weight" than ot [..] View

Reverse stat padding?

9:05 am, December 1, 2013 You get a lot of players whining about "Hurr durr you only have g00d stats because you play "op" tanks like the is6 and SU-122 n00b." Without exception I have seen only ONE player [..] View

WZ-111 model 1-4

9:05 am, November 26, 2013 This early research listed below and suggested by WoT at http://wiki.worldoftanks.com/WZ-111_model_1-4 is incorrect. If you follow this path, you cannot mount the turret with out first getting the sus [..] View

Gift Shop Fix

9:05 am, November 24, 2013 Wargaming, you know I love you. And if you didn't know, you will soon. The new look of the premium tank shop is nice, but sometimes the spelling in vehicle descriptions just devolves into engrish of t [..] View

Bad with one tank good with another?

9:05 pm, November 22, 2013 Been playing M4A3E2, some what looking forward to the T29. But I have a dismal 44% win rate in the thing, and I miss half of my shots =/. Jumbo, and T29 have similar play styles, full frontal armor, s [..] View

Black Prince Heartbreak

9:05 am, November 20, 2013 I just had the best/worst game of my WoT career. 1500xp from a loss (courageous resistance, non-doubled, non-premium), 7 kills and nearly the first Kolobanov's of my 7k battle career. Battle S [..] View

How do I T-44?

9:05 pm, November 18, 2013 Out of all the tanks up to it this one feels like the most undepowered of the lot. 175mm pen is laughable, the reload on the 100mm is extremely high for its alpha, it's maneouvrability is good [..] View

The problems of WOT and WG

9:05 am, November 16, 2013 Okay, this will be a long thread, there will be no tldr, if you cant read it, dont read it Let us watch 2 videos first from extracredits to give you an example what I am going to talk about http://w [..] View

ARL V39 Underpowered?

9:05 pm, November 15, 2013 ARL V39 with 105mm vs Su-100 Su-100 wins in alpha SU-100 wins in pen. ARL V39 wins slightly in dpm, but if both tanks are loaded in first shell, Su-100 wins. ARL V39 is more accurate SU-100 ca [..] View

Daily Discussion/ Buff that tank: The Chinese 113 and it's replacement/ potential buff

9:05 am, November 14, 2013 So we all know that my precious 113 is one of the worst Tier 10 tanks that you can get, and is easily the worst tank in the line of chinese heavies. that being said, I want to kind of bring up a discu [..] View

IS-3 Question

9:05 pm, November 12, 2013 I got my IS-3 a few days ago and upgraded to the D-25T, tracks, turret, and now I am unsure what upgrade to pursue next. The tank is delightfully bouncy and I make great XP in it, but I don't [..] View

M6A2E1, what a beast tank

9:05 am, November 11, 2013 Met one today in pub match when playing in my Super Pershing. I thought it was tier 6 American heavy tank and underestimated it. Shot an AP round into his front, bounced off. Next one carefully aimed [..] View

Tier 8 Premium Megapost

9:05 am, November 9, 2013 So there have been a few posts of people asking which tier 8 premium they should get since they're on sale. I figured we might as well just have one giant post to compare them all. This is lar [..] View

Tiger Two Wat Do?

9:05 pm, November 7, 2013 Recently got to the King Tiger and i have the turret and the second gun, however I can't seem to make this tank work. Sidescrapeing ends up getting me penned at ~175* angles on the hull and tu [..] View

Shot bounces off lower turret, hits engine, lights my tank on fire

9:05 pm, November 1, 2013 submitted by conradsymes [link] [14 comments] View

The Chi-Nu Kai Review, the new tier 5 Japanese premium

9:05 am, November 1, 2013 SO the first of the Japanese tanks is upon us and as per the Wargaming usual, have delivered it shortly before the Japanese tree is released. As such, I have bought the tank to train up a medium crew [..] View

A dramatized story of a loss I had yesterday.

9:05 pm, October 30, 2013 As the StuG III Came around the corner, he rolled right back up to 40 k/ph as the turn loosened. The hard, toasty desert sand felt great under his tracks, and the sun beat down upon his armoured top. [..] View

Doom Cannon Acquired

10:05 am, October 21, 2013 After a ****-ton of exercising my patience from playing non-stop today, I finally got the 155mm for my T30. Took it for a spin after I got it, playing on Highway as 3rd from the top. Heavily damaged a [..] View

Wish list for beginners and veterans alike.

10:05 pm, October 20, 2013 As I am wont to do of late, I find myself between battles lurking around the forums and reading, getting a finger on the pulse of the community, and I wondered to myself about several topics I had a d [..] View

Quick question for any T29 owners!

10:05 pm, October 10, 2013 Can I mount the 105mm on the stock turret without having to upgrade to the second turret? The first one has pretty much the same armor, so I would go for the gun first and just learn to deal with the [..] View

So, I just bought the IS....and I messed up.

10:05 pm, October 7, 2013 Lately I've been grinding the Russian heavy lines and have the KV-3 and IS unlocked. I've unlocked everything on the KV-3 except for the 100mm D10T as it's subpar from what I&a [..] View

T28 Prot. turret not as open as it seems?

10:05 pm, October 2, 2013 I was in my T21 on Pearl River, and managed to get above and behind a T28 Prot. which is basically a dream position. Because I'm an idiot, I bounced a couple of poorly aimed AP shots at first, [..] View

I don't drive the ELC AMX properly. I drive it like an ankle-biting velociraptor.

10:05 pm, September 29, 2013 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/46095085/ELC%20AMX.jpg How do I ELC? The ELC AMX features a 200+ damage top gun with 170mm penetration. Though it lacks a turret, you can use it for bombing run-sty [..] View

Put Me In Coach: T110E4

10:05 pm, September 25, 2013 Please note that this will not be true for every clan as it is more of a generalization. Clans who are limited in tier Xs may use these more or less frequently, but for the most part this will apply t [..] View

Not bad for my first game in the VK 30.02M...

10:05 am, September 20, 2013 Top engine, top radio, top gun, stock turret, stock tracks, vents, rammer, EGLD. My first game in this tank and my second 8.8 game. Sacred Valley encounter, tier 6 match. Final score: 2222 damage, 7 [..] View

STB-1 Article (normally would be in Japanese Tank Thread)

6:45 am, September 18, 2013 The STB-1 Tier 10 medium from Japan By SoukouDragon revised by Daigensui After the culmination of many tested core components, the STB-1 was completed in 1969. The STB-1 was the first of two de [..] View

8.8 Soviet Mediums thoughts and recommended Tech Tree Path

10:05 am, September 12, 2013 With 8.8 coming you will have two Soviet Medium lines which will both lead into the T-54 which will unlock both the Object 140 and T-62A. Here is my thought on what tech tree path you should go for th [..] View

T-44

10:05 am, September 5, 2013 After getting tired of playing light tanks, I decided to put my focus toward medium tanks. I wanted a medium that was nimble, stealthy, packed firepower, and wasn't paper. So I went with Soviet Medium [..] View

My stats have suffered so badly from my Leopard PTA stock grind...

10:05 am, September 4, 2013 Like Jesus ******* Christ, I rarely break 1000 damage with the stock gun, even with the added DPM from the turret, and I just don't have the mobility without the engine, so the tank has just b [..] View

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