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Top 20 Clans by Gold Revenue over Past 2 Months

4:03 pm, October 24, 2014 Top 20 Clans by Gold Revenue, with Data Collected Daily with WG API's     A few observations: wars are expensive. they hurt gold income corollary: current clan wars mechanics disco [..] View

Last Man Standing - Medal of Honour Award

4:03 pm, October 24, 2014 Hi everyone, I thought a new courage's medal should be added to the game, utilising some rules behind this, it could be implemented.   This medal would be in honor of Walter D. Ehle [..] View

Question about Chinese lights/mediums

5:03 am, October 24, 2014 Is there any reason to go past tier 8 with these things? The tier 9/10 don't look like big improvements over the WZ132/T-34-2. Specifically in the armor/speed/alpha departments. submitted by Puppy_s [..] View

I need an explanation on this

5:03 am, October 24, 2014 I was hull down against an IS-3 in my T29 and he decides to shoot HE. It pens my turret roof once and kills my both my loaders and my gunner, which sucks. But I look again and see that there are two h [..] View

The Grind - T37 Light review

5:03 am, October 24, 2014 This is my new way of reviewing tanks, including the grind from stock (albeit I only play a few games while stock) to help people that do not like to use free experience. Beware, as this is m [..] View

Sand River Encounter Imbalance

5:03 am, October 24, 2014 West spawn has the decided advantage north of the river. The dunes are pushed too far towards east spawn and allow for free fire into the pass connecting north/south near G8. This firing location, fro [..] View

The 1996 Chicago Bulls present... The n.W.o

5:03 am, October 24, 2014     My fellow Hulkamaniacs, due to boredom as well as the Halloween spirit, the 1996 Chicago Bulls have been taken over by the nWo and it's members.   The nWo may or may n [..] View

the 112

4:03 pm, October 23, 2014 hello reddit, i bought the 112 a few weeks ago a friend of mine recommended it and i thought wel i am looking for a new tank so why not. but now i do like it its frontal armor is strong but is it just [..] View

M41 Walking Ammorack

4:03 pm, October 23, 2014 But seriously, does anyone else feel that its ammo is a tad vulnerable? I played about 30 games 'tooned with my bud and he lost his turret more times that day than I have in over 4k games submitted b [..] View

Wargaming needs to learn how to run a tournament

4:03 pm, October 23, 2014 For about 8 or 9 months now, I've been doing tournaments that Wargaming puts up every week. Main reason being "obviously" the metric **** ton of gold you can make. This is why they are prett [..] View

IS-4, the Russian anvil

4:03 pm, October 23, 2014 Many people overlook this tank simply because the stats on it are not really that impressive. I mean, we are talking about a tank with slow top speed, slow acceleration, a little clumsy on the turns, [..] View

OP Arty's need be changed and back on old FV215b (183).

4:03 pm, October 23, 2014 The artillery has drastically changed, tier 10 can not be more than 500 hit points, the reason why I think it's fair to change it because arty remains hidden 90% of match time. It's stupid that a spg [..] View

Heads Up Display Dissapears

4:03 pm, October 23, 2014 I have had a couple of games where I am typing a chat message and somehow hit the wrong key and everything dissapears. No mini-map,no aiming reticle, just my tank and the map. When an red tank shows u [..] View

WoT High Ping

5:03 am, October 23, 2014 I've been having high ping problems for several months now and can't seem to narrow down the issue. I live in Phoenix, AZ and both the west coast and east coast servers give me the same result. Most d [..] View

GLD or Vert Stabs

5:03 am, October 23, 2014 Before we start off. I love fast aiming. Now, I am coming onto the Object 140 very soon, and would running GLD over Stabs be a vaible option? I find that the 2.3 second aim time is too long on the T-5 [..] View

E75

5:03 am, October 23, 2014 can a tank be more rng biased?   with my T110E4, t30, rhm with the big gun firing gold. I have bounced his lower plate shooting shells with over 300mm of pen (average) and I always bounce th [..] View

Slow but steady progress

4:03 pm, October 22, 2014 Around a year ago, I started a thread about how I had started out this game just lol'ing around, and had terrible stats to show for it.  I had decided to learn to play, and had worked my way [..] View

Stud 75/L70 can't pen anything

4:03 pm, October 22, 2014 I "upgraded" from my 38T because I was tired of my 75 bouncing all the time. In the case of a TD, every shot needs to count because you'll likely have to move, and if 1/2 your shots bounce a [..] View

Do people really think arty is OP, or do you think it is just an emotional reaction?

5:03 am, October 22, 2014 For tiers 6-10: 12.2% of vehicles average over 1 ****/game, only 3.8% amongst arty. 41% of vehicles have over 50 percent winrates, only 38% amongst arty. Arty represent 13% of the tanks in these tiers [..] View

Tiger 2. What's so good about this tank?

5:03 am, October 22, 2014 Why do so many people like this tank? I don't get it at all. I've played it, and to be honest I thought it was going to be great before I played it. It's my second tier 8 heavy behind the T32, so I g [..] View

A writeup on light tanks [AMX12t edition]

5:03 am, October 22, 2014 Ok, to address the kind of awkward pacing and formatting of this post, I actually wrote it as one 15,318 character post, but obviously that doesn't work too well with Reddits format. I'll link to the [..] View

Tactical Magic [TACMG] Recruiting

5:03 am, October 22, 2014 I don't want to go and make this all fancy, with brilliant colors, and flashy pics, etc... This is combat folks, and COMBAT is not pretty, nor is it Glamorous like those ignorant pukes in Hollywood ma [..] View

Looking for a decent Tier 6 premium.

5:03 am, October 22, 2014 So I am looking for a decent Tier VI premium tank. I have a few in mind, but I only have enough for 1 of them. Here is a list on my play style and opinion.   -I snipe a lot, but can go into m [..] View

Punish People Bumping Into You

5:03 am, October 22, 2014 Two days in a row I have had to shoot someone for bumping into me while I was focusing fire and covering team members.  I would normally tell them off in chat but I'm perma'ed in chat. So I n [..] View

NARWL is selectively recruiting

4:03 pm, October 21, 2014   Upvote is an independent clan active in clan wars. We are RDDT's sister clan.   Upvote is looking for recruits for Clan Wars and the upcoming Campaign!   & [..] View

What are your 3 LEAST favorite tanks in the game?

5:03 am, October 21, 2014 Mine would have to be the D.W.2, the grind was awful. No armor, practically no gun, no speed, and it was just useless. I see other playrs driving the DW2, and i feel sorry for them. The BDR, even thou [..] View

The Army of Thunder is looking for new members to join.

5:03 am, October 21, 2014 We only have two things that you must have before you can fully join 1.you have to be over 18+ (if you are 17 then you can get in but it will be a person to person account) 2.you have to have team spe [..] View

Reverse sidescraping And normal sidescraping

5:03 am, October 21, 2014 Ok so I don't come acros this often so I am at a loss at what to do against a good player who does this. The only method I've come up with is flank them. (Not always possible if it's a choke point and [..] View

Anyone else experiencing some crazy lag?

5:03 am, October 21, 2014 My latency isn't flashing red and my ping is hovering around 40 but I get bits where I can't fire or move or I'm stuck and can fire over and over again without actually firing or reloading.   [..] View

How Internet Connections And Solar Flares Mix!

5:03 am, October 21, 2014 Answer is, they don't!  I wonder if other games are having the same issues that we have been having during this period of intense activity. It should go away tomorrow though. Hopefully the wo [..] View

This can't be right.

4:03 pm, October 20, 2014   I mean, I did have a pretty good weekend. Reached my all-time highest overall Win Rate. But it's pretty insane to think I averaged 2600 WN8 for almost 40 battles. So, obviously something i [..] View

Just saw Fury and it made me think...

5:03 am, October 20, 2014 ...that WoT should implement a White Phosporous or other smoke rounds. Tanks popping smoke and then advancing would not only look awesome and be more "realistic" but could also help reduce T [..] View

250+ping on SEA from New Zealand?

5:03 am, October 20, 2014 Does anyone else get high ping playing on the SEA server? I'm thinking of switching to NA but I don't really want to start all over. Is there a way of decreasing it? submitted by YeahHowYaGoin [lin [..] View

Some players may fail...

5:03 am, October 20, 2014 but not as hard as a Tiger firing HE out of his 8.8cm L/71.   Not even joking. Match in my Fury. There was a tiger tank with the L/71. End of the match he was the only one alive. A Centurion [..] View

[SHOJO] is recruiting! (trigger warning: anime)

5:03 am, October 20, 2014 To Aru Kagaku no Panzer is recruiting o/   [SHOJO] is [MAHOU]'s subclan that aims at skilled but relaxed gameplay. If you've been friendzoned by Mahou, we can friendzone yo [..] View

[GN0ME] Gnome is Recruiting

5:03 am, October 20, 2014 Gnome is Recruiting!   Welcome About Gnome: Gnome is a new clan seeking to recruit high level and experienced tankers. We want to be competitive, participating in Clan Wars, Stronkh [..] View

chat filter

4:03 pm, October 19, 2014 why is there an option to un filter chat. if its a muteable offence... why not just keep all of it filtered???? like that makes no sense to me, thats like having a lane on a high way that allows you t [..] View

KMaus, any news on the super secret awesome super mission you mentioned?

4:03 pm, October 19, 2014 Concerning your post found here: http://forum.worldoftanks.com/index.php?/topic/392721-free-togs-for-all/page__st__120__pid__7915051#entry7915051      Speculation on t [..] View

Fixing Lakeville!?

5:03 am, October 19, 2014 http://imgur.com/go9yZfE http://imgur.com/iXp4PSA I figured this might just go unnoticed at the bottom of the previous Lakeville post, but this seems to me like an easy fix to help Lakeville flow a li [..] View

NOOBMETER errors in stats when compared to WOTLABS.

5:03 am, October 19, 2014   Hi, I have two problems in my stats with NOOBMETER.    First of all, there is a pretty big error.  In my last 1000 battles it has me at WN8 of 1152 when you can r [..] View

"Broken" SPG

5:03 am, October 18, 2014 Am I the only one that's noticed that the Crusader SP drives the wrong way? In actuality the gun points out over the rear deck. The driver's seat in the vehicle, as driven now, faces the rear end and [..] View

Quick question, what is this tank that runs over **SPOILER ALERT** Mr. Bean's Mini car?

4:03 pm, October 17, 2014 submitted by learnyouahaskell [link] [13 comments] View

Why can't I T69?

5:03 am, October 17, 2014 I am a recovering tomato, and generally I'm getting acceptable at the game. Not yet hit t10 - my regulars are E75, T71, T-43 and I have just started the T29. My tops are E75, IS3.....and T69. And I ha [..] View

Tiger P and Tiger 1 platoon is one of the best tank combos.

5:03 am, October 17, 2014 The tanks are almost identical, but for some reason, the two combined intimidates all the tanks we brawled. They would literally back up and miss us. Played 8 games. Won 8 games. This is after losing [..] View

Changing nations

4:03 pm, October 16, 2014 I began WoT in 07/14. I have always liked German tanks and have battled up to tier 4 in only German tanks with about 1400 battles. Now that I'm "learning" about "other nation's tanks&qu [..] View

IS-6 Ace Mastery! Finally! Too bad it was a loss.

4:03 pm, October 16, 2014 So I just finished an encounter on Lakeville.   Valley got over run despite having a td and a few arty there against a scout, medium, and heavy.   I had to take on the city practica [..] View

A-44 Needs more gun selections

5:03 am, October 16, 2014 I am currently grinding through the A-44 on my way up that line of the Soviet Mediums and have noticed a huge obstacle to my progress. That is the absolutely horrible soft stats of the 107mm gun. 3.4 [..] View

Leo On Track: Guide+Replays

4:03 pm, October 15, 2014 Preface: My stats in the leo, http://i.imgur.com/JyNeD1L.jpg A wonderful (very generous) benefactor on reddit is gifting me a fury e8 if I do a leo 1 guide as well as guide him a bit in game, so here [..] View

Black Knights of False Order recruiting anyone welcome.

5:03 am, October 15, 2014 Black Knights of False Order is a friendly clan who will give anyone a chance. our goals are to overall improve as players (everyone can always improve and improvement should always be a goal), and al [..] View

How Have You Changed Over Time?

4:03 pm, October 14, 2014 Man.... I don't even know where to start. Over the past year the way I play WOT has changed so much I don't even know how to place what changed.  Look at me say, 12 months ago and I wasn't mu [..] View

Looking for a Canadian Clan

4:03 pm, October 14, 2014 Would like to find a Canadian clan to join if there is such a clan. i do have some CW experience and enjoy platooning and team battles.I have several tier 10's which all are CW ready. I do play quite [..] View

When am I allowed to move up a tier? And a bit of crew training.

4:03 pm, October 14, 2014 Ok so I'm learning and playing the game.  I'm around tier 3-4 through earning but also purchased a pack of 3 tier 5 heavies a couple weeks ago.  I'm not great with those and I know i [..] View

[RDDT] EU is Recruiting!

5:03 am, October 14, 2014 What do we do? Clan Wars Strongholds Platoons Tournaments What do we offer? A stable, active and sociable World of Tanks community since 2011. Excellent opportunities in Clan Wars (currently fighting [..] View

13 75 Crew conundrum.

5:03 am, October 14, 2014 So, I did well in the AMX 12t, finished it with a 56% win rate. However, I'm doing rather poorly in the 13 75. Use of the search function reveals I've been playing it wrong, using it as a passive scou [..] View

Are there mods that can modify the garage this much? (lots'o pics and rage)

5:03 am, October 14, 2014 I hope WoT Reddit doesn't hate my out-of-the-box thinking :< I am a newblette, and I like to break the mold. Anywho, let's make the garage better or different with mods. If the following sugges [..] View

Loading screen lockup

5:03 am, October 14, 2014 Good day,   After taking a hiatus from the game for a week, I logged on to find a new update. So, completed that and logged onto the game. First thing I noticed was no sound in the garage. Ch [..] View

What was the weekend mini-patch about?

5:03 am, October 14, 2014 I was away this weekend and just now opened World of tanks.  Evidently there was a small patch sometime over the past three days as there was a small download before the software would open.& [..] View

Do I look like a smurf? What's wrong with them anyway?

4:03 pm, October 13, 2014 I have roughly 7000 games and have considered myself to be above average in ability for some time now. I am currently trying to consistently hit 3000WN8 and a 60% W/R when playing solo and usually ach [..] View

Lets Talk about the new Scouts!

4:03 pm, October 13, 2014 Ah yes, with the influx of new scout tanks people have been throwing out "OP OP OP PLS NERF TEARS TEARS TEARS" in pretty much every game now. Lets take a deeper walk into this mindset, dis-s [..] View

Any tips for winning tier 10 matches?

5:03 am, October 13, 2014 I've been having a terrible loss streak lately, I only have 150 matches in my 430, but in the last few days my win rate has dropped from 52% to 48% and my average damage from 2.6k to 2.5k. Basically I [..] View

<Clank!>

5:03 am, October 13, 2014 You know that sound I'm talking about...   I've just recently become aware that I've actually worked that damn sound into my situational awareness. If I'm zoomed and about to take a shot and [..] View

Suggestion: more maps, not less.

4:03 pm, October 12, 2014 According to FTR there will be a poll to determine which maps to remove from the game. The correct answer is NONE. Even more unbalanced crappy maps are better than 4 or 5 boring 'balanced' ma [..] View

Looking for advice on playing the (nearly) stock IS-8

5:03 am, October 12, 2014 I say nearly stock because I'm using the BL-9 for the obvious reason that I don't want to make myself suicidal before I've unlocked the IS-7. Anyhow I recently unlocked this tank and I'm having real t [..] View

Can't even play this weekand - arty constantly getting me

5:03 am, October 12, 2014 Like seriously, I'm seeing 3 arties on enemy team constantly, and I get singled out and nuked with one shot. Even my LTs are not safe. Especially my LTs. And when I play in the E100 or some other tank [..] View

Okay, when did they change it so more than one player can get Top Gun?

4:03 pm, October 11, 2014 Here's a game where two of us got six kills.   http://wotreplays.com/site/1231659#murovanka-3bac-m10_wolverine Clearly, the guy in the Churchill single handedly won his flank and without ques [..] View

Looking for a mature clan?

4:03 pm, October 11, 2014 We at the Armored Tank Division [ATD] are looking for tankers over 18  with Tier 6 and above vehicles.  We are a new clan that plays for fun, without the drama or pressure of win win [..] View

Looking For a Social Clan

5:03 am, October 11, 2014 Well, pretty much as the title suggests, I'm looking primarily for a social clan.  Or at least a clan that doesn't require a player to be on for clan wars.  I'm pretty much engulfed [..] View

I don't wanna be "one of them" but

5:03 am, October 11, 2014 After this patch my game is straight wack.  Even running vanilla with no mods at all my game turns black and freezes.  It's never happened before, so now I feel the frustration of th [..] View

[WATCH] THINE NEIGHBORHOOD WATCH

5:03 am, October 11, 2014 [WATCH] THINE NEIGHBORHOOD WATCH   IS RECRUITING !   WE PATROL THE DARK STREETS OF OUR NEIGHBORHOODS TO PROTECT THE INNOCENT FROM ENCROACHING SKITTLE CRIMINALS! Now for not [..] View

[MDG] Moddedgaming looking for player!

5:03 am, October 11, 2014 Hello,     Moddedgaming started a clan for WOT a couple of months back and we're looking for more people.   A little background on us.   We are a core group of frie [..] View

Any plans of an, in-game, armor inspector ala War Thunder in WoT?

4:03 pm, October 10, 2014 Having played some WoT over the years, and enjoyed it, I was excited when ground forces was released in War Thunder. I tried it out and found it entertaining, both games offer something the other does [..] View

Eu player...in NA.

5:03 am, October 10, 2014 Hello everybody, I'm pretty much in need of a good suggestion. Basically I've started playing WoT back in Europe, pretty much after getting my degree. Two months ago I moved to Vancouver to continue m [..] View

Are Mastery "Ace Tanker" awards not meant to make any sense when you get one?

4:03 pm, October 9, 2014 I played a game in my Tier 5 M4 Sherman yesterday and I got a Mastery badge.  I was excited of course (its only my fifth one ever), but also very confused.  My WN8 score for the matc [..] View

[SUGGESTION] Stopping The Unnecessary Nerfing Of Arty

4:03 pm, October 9, 2014 War Gaming is nerfing artillery to heII. But changes to Arty in general are in fact needed and are justified; we know there is a problem. Most of us recognize it, but…. most of use disagree [..] View

The Chi-Ri's "Low" Penetration

5:03 am, October 9, 2014 After what I thought was a mostly pleasant grind through the Chi-Ri (2535 WN8 over 91 battles), I've noticed a lot of people talking about how it has such low pen. It's definitely right in the middle [..] View

TL-DR NOW RECRUITING FOR CLAN WARS

5:03 am, October 9, 2014 TL-DR, The RDDT alliance's number 3 clan wars clan, is looking for good players to join our ongoing mission to carve out a piece of the global map. We play clan wars in the 8:00pm (20:00) eastern time [..] View

Ready your tanks and premium consumables... For tonight, we chip the greens.

5:03 am, October 9, 2014 As per the request of ArmsandToast, err Memeghost/ArmorGreen, I've been tasked to inform the greens on the west coast that we will be chipping into them within the next 48 hours.  With a new [..] View

Gotta love matches like these...

5:03 am, October 9, 2014 Battle on Komarin. Team line up was pretty weak. I dont use XVM, but could tell from start up. Too many of the tanks were stockish looking, no camo paint, etc. You know the drill, not a team that coul [..] View

So I found a way of improving my stats.. the KING of derp!

4:03 pm, October 8, 2014 I rediscovered my one and true love, monster game all day yesterday, I am also looking for someone to platoon with in KV-2s. Is the equipment selection and skills/perks good the way I chose them? htt [..] View

A story about the results of pi-polar tanking.

4:03 pm, October 8, 2014 A short story about my struggle with tanking, family and work, and how the three battled for my sole.   Some of you already know me from long ago as "The Unicum Hunter" in the forum [..] View

Recruiting for casual tier 6 stronghold and general platooning goodness.

5:03 am, October 8, 2014 I am recruiting for [LOCHA] on North American server (usually east) and would like anyone with a tier 6 and voice ability to join up. We are pretty small (roughly 50 members, usually around 10-15 onli [..] View

New clan called GROWL is looking for more players

5:03 am, October 8, 2014 PROWL ARMORED DIVISION IS NOW RECRUTING! Prowl Armored Division [GROWL] is a clan that is looking for players who want to take their game to the next level. We are growing to achieve the goal of beco [..] View

Couple of questions

4:03 pm, October 7, 2014 I play Wot for a some months now and reached a point where I ask my self to go all in or just quit the game. I have mainly T6 tanks and 2 T7 tanks with a whole lot of T7's unlocked but no money to pur [..] View

No training available.

4:03 pm, October 7, 2014 I have a tier VI FV304 whose crew reached 100% about 200 games ago and are now at 114 % and the perks/skills/training is still unavailable to me. I've recently discovered right click - personal file a [..] View

The T28: Stat friend or Foe

4:03 pm, October 7, 2014 For the most part, I'm not a terrible player, I always try to learn how to improve myself and do my best to help out my team..... enter the T28 American TD  At the beginning of the O [..] View

WOT in the running for Golden Joystick Again. If they win, we may get another free gift tank.

5:03 am, October 7, 2014 The more we vote, the better chance we have at getting a free tank. http://worldoftanks.com/en/news/pc-browser/17/golden-joystick-2014/ Wargaming Nominated for Three Golden Joystick Awards 03.10.2014 [..] View

Wild Finish - Video

5:03 am, October 7, 2014 Never seen a final score like this before...  Need to give serious props to 'Artur1964', would not have survived without him.  Normally I'd thank the rest of my team but in this case [..] View

Contact list limit?

5:03 am, October 7, 2014 Why is there a contact list limited? Does anybody else find that silly? It doesn't take long to tally up a bunch of contacts if you're in the clan or two over a period of a year or so. They should cha [..] View

[VEXED] is recruiting - New clan, ground floor opportunity

5:03 am, October 7, 2014 I am a 45 year old gamer with a full time job. I have set up a clan, but due to my schedule I am usually on later at night and so I would not be available full time during clan wars. This means I am m [..] View

hmmmm.... opinions about mice

5:03 am, October 7, 2014 I think it is time for Newt to get a new mouse.... Newt only has a maximum price range of about $100 (not going to go over that very easily) Newt is not that particular, however he does not want a hor [..] View

WN8 question: Given that in some cases, overall wn8 score is next to impossible to raise in a reasonable amount of time

4:03 pm, October 6, 2014 Why isn't last 1k considered more important? I know I'm bias because my last 1k is much better than my overall, but doesn't that make a better metric than an archaic score that may be completely irrel [..] View

Which tank is your favorite tank to play and why?

4:03 pm, October 6, 2014 Which tank (if you have one) have you found matches your playstyle perfectly and why do you love it so much? I just recently found out that the Pershing was made for me. I feel like it is the perfect [..] View

Is the T14 the worst T5 heavy?

4:03 pm, October 6, 2014 I've been driving this thing a while, bought it while it was on sale. At first it was fun, as the gun was kinda crummy but at least it was bouncy. I currently have a 55% WR over 318 battles. Lately, h [..] View

Finally! Another milestone reached

4:03 pm, October 6, 2014 When you're at as many battles as I am, reaching milestones in overall stats is a slow process. But:     I'd been hovering around 0.95 ~ 0.98 for the longest time. Now I finally not [..] View

entering the land of green

4:03 pm, October 6, 2014 I just noticed that my recent has become green - I've been orange and yellow for so long.  I did have a game over the weekend in my BDR where I dealt 2300 damage and 6 kills - it was a 9000+ [..] View

Fixing MM and gameplay

4:03 pm, October 6, 2014 I'm not hear to waste anyone's time but for the number of battles i've played, whenever i have a good run, i have basically an fairly equal and opposite bad run. over at least 8k battles, my win rate [..] View

Lowe still needs preferred MM

4:03 pm, October 6, 2014 With the advent of the matchmaker tier range changes, all the new tanks, and various map changes to encourage brawling, the Lowe is suffering as a result.  Even with the most recent minor buf [..] View

How to deal with platoons of high tier ranges?

5:03 am, October 6, 2014 This isn't about people being bad at the game or having bad stats or whatever. This is about platoons that bring tier 1-3 tanks into tier 9-10 games. It seems to happen a lot more than usual lately. W [..] View

RDDT1 EU is recruiting!

5:03 am, October 6, 2014 Sat comfortably between [RDDT] and the rest of the RDDT social clans (not [RDDTX] ... we still don't really understand those guys), [RDDT1] acts as a slightly less intense alternative to the main [RDD [..] View

Check your Ammo and Consumables

5:03 am, October 6, 2014 My M103 was charging me gold.  No, I did not “forget” to set the toggle.  This has happened twice to me over the last few patches.  Check yours to make s [..] View

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