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Top 20 Clans by Gold Revenue over Past 2 Months

4:03 pm, October 24, 2014 Top 20 Clans by Gold Revenue, with Data Collected Daily with WG API's     A few observations: wars are expensive. they hurt gold income corollary: current clan wars mechanics disco [..] View

Cleanest XVM

5:03 am, October 24, 2014 Just throwing this out there, because I'm looking for a new XVM setup - don't feel like customizing my own. Who's got the cleanest/minimalist XVM out there? I've looked at Jimbo's and it's nice, but I [..] View

Premium vs Premium

5:03 am, October 24, 2014 I would love to have fair play game. If I play premium, I would love to play vs people who are playing the same premium account and invest money in game. As a consumer and customer I think that playin [..] View

Fury "Illuminati"

5:03 am, October 24, 2014 Im very worried, because i noticed, on the back of the new M4A3E8 Fury Tank, bottom right flap, their are these words written "2 (Triangle (Triangle) 2 (Triangle) 666 (Triangle)" And Clearly [..] View

Sand River Encounter Imbalance

5:03 am, October 24, 2014 West spawn has the decided advantage north of the river. The dunes are pushed too far towards east spawn and allow for free fire into the pass connecting north/south near G8. This firing location, fro [..] View

Enough with the Warnings... Your pissing me off

5:03 am, October 24, 2014 I appreciate that WOT is trying to better the game play but a blanket warning system when a person leave is bull. I don't pay and and play a game where someone "Warns me". Im a fifty year ol [..] View

[Discussion] TD Perk for Radio Operator

4:03 pm, October 23, 2014 Is view range or signal range better? Everywhere I read they say to do view range. My assumption is signal range is better because you can stay farther away hiding in a bush and see the enemy as a res [..] View

Wargaming needs to learn how to run a tournament

4:03 pm, October 23, 2014 For about 8 or 9 months now, I've been doing tournaments that Wargaming puts up every week. Main reason being "obviously" the metric **** ton of gold you can make. This is why they are prett [..] View

IS-4, the Russian anvil

4:03 pm, October 23, 2014 Many people overlook this tank simply because the stats on it are not really that impressive. I mean, we are talking about a tank with slow top speed, slow acceleration, a little clumsy on the turns, [..] View

how to play well.

4:03 pm, October 23, 2014 1. understand the roll of your tank and its strongpoints and weaknesses. a t-34 should not be up on a hill sniping , and a toaster should not be up at the front of a charge. don't ******* if your a sc [..] View

OP Arty's need be changed and back on old FV215b (183).

4:03 pm, October 23, 2014 The artillery has drastically changed, tier 10 can not be more than 500 hit points, the reason why I think it's fair to change it because arty remains hidden 90% of match time. It's stupid that a spg [..] View

KV-4 Performance

5:03 am, October 23, 2014 I have a 4 skill Russian heavy crew from my IS-6, and was considering the KV-4 because I really, really want the ST-I, but I'm apprehensive about its performance, especially in tier X games. Could so [..] View

Explain Autobounces, I get flack for killing people when they expect it to autobounce

5:03 am, October 23, 2014 I don't have any screens because I'm at work but I've been reported and chewed out for killing people while they are in supposedly autobounce angles. I'm not so sure they exist, is it a thing or are p [..] View

As long as you want to learn, you will

5:03 am, October 23, 2014 Hello guys. I share this post because I'm happy and because I became better, I learned something and I want to share this experience with other tankers.   First of all - I started 2 [..] View

Stud 75/L70 can't pen anything

4:03 pm, October 22, 2014 I "upgraded" from my 38T because I was tired of my 75 bouncing all the time. In the case of a TD, every shot needs to count because you'll likely have to move, and if 1/2 your shots bounce a [..] View

Why Yinz Cost So Much To Run!

4:03 pm, October 22, 2014 The T57 and T29 are two tanks that I don’t understand why they are so expensive to run.  I got the itch to run my T57 last night so I played approximately 15 games in it. I ran stan [..] View

KV-3

4:03 pm, October 22, 2014 Hello all   I was wondering what does it take to make silver in this tank? Cause I am trying to to make silver to grind the silver need to buy T29, T25/2, and a few others. Heck I was rarely [..] View

Do people really think arty is OP, or do you think it is just an emotional reaction?

5:03 am, October 22, 2014 For tiers 6-10: 12.2% of vehicles average over 1 ****/game, only 3.8% amongst arty. 41% of vehicles have over 50 percent winrates, only 38% amongst arty. Arty represent 13% of the tanks in these tiers [..] View

Tiger 2. What's so good about this tank?

5:03 am, October 22, 2014 Why do so many people like this tank? I don't get it at all. I've played it, and to be honest I thought it was going to be great before I played it. It's my second tier 8 heavy behind the T32, so I g [..] View

Gold to credits worth it?

5:03 am, October 22, 2014 Alright, so I'm grinding my T-54 to the Obj. 140 because I need it for clan wars. Problem is I don't have 6 million creds. I just got 2 Prepaid cards so there's 10,760 gold in my garage. Should I use [..] View

Tactical Magic [TACMG] Recruiting

5:03 am, October 22, 2014 I don't want to go and make this all fancy, with brilliant colors, and flashy pics, etc... This is combat folks, and COMBAT is not pretty, nor is it Glamorous like those ignorant pukes in Hollywood ma [..] View

Looking for a decent Tier 6 premium.

5:03 am, October 22, 2014 So I am looking for a decent Tier VI premium tank. I have a few in mind, but I only have enough for 1 of them. Here is a list on my play style and opinion.   -I snipe a lot, but can go into m [..] View

ISU-152: How viable is it without the BL-10?

4:03 pm, October 21, 2014 Sorry if there is a similar post but I couldn't find one: question is simple. Is the ISU playable using the stock 152mm derp? It was fantastic on the SU, especially up-close with dirty HEAT shells but [..] View

Crash to Desktop with latest WOT Client

4:03 pm, October 21, 2014 Ever since the last update I have been getting alot of CTD's when exiting a battle and going back to the garage or when just joining a battle I go straight to desktop and have to relog in. I recieved [..] View

[SOLVED] Mission "Total Destruction" Completion Bug

4:03 pm, October 21, 2014 Well, i completed today the mission "Total Destruction" that gives you 2 garage slots, and 10.000 crew exp, in my KV-85, but instead of the mission granting me that, it just reseted and give [..] View

Type 62 Skills

5:03 am, October 21, 2014 So I got this tank from the mission I am keeping this one because is a good credit maker. And now I can choose the 1st set of skill. I thought Mentor vs 6sense and camo for the rest. Now my question i [..] View

Earning credits in a CHI-RI

4:03 pm, October 20, 2014 So I have been familiarizing myself with the Japanese 犬.... the Chi Ri.  It is big… it is somewhat slow.  It is an awkward medium since it is basically a light [..] View

Another ELC AMX theme song (Because this forum is way too serious)

4:03 pm, October 20, 2014 Seriously, this forum can be such a downer after the weekend.   Here's something to lighten up the mood.     I'm willing to put together theme songs for your favourite tank [..] View

What happened today while attempting to pay for a Fury Bundle (WG Fail)

4:03 pm, October 19, 2014 So I recently decided I would buy a Fury bundle with the $100 package. I went to gift shop, and double checked the amount of money I needed and the payment method, which is MyCard. (MyCard is like a e [..] View

PLAYER-ISSUED AWARDS (JUST A SUGGESTION)

4:03 pm, October 19, 2014 Greetings and salutations, fellow tankers!   Just a noob trying to make the games more pleasurable.   Just played a game where I saw a player play an amazing game, yet upon checking [..] View

Is premium really all that better than standard AP?

4:03 pm, October 19, 2014 I had one of my best games ever yesterday in my Cromwell.  I forget the exact number but I did dang near close to 2,000 in damage.  I loaded only AP.  I have been loading 2 [..] View

KMaus, any news on the super secret awesome super mission you mentioned?

4:03 pm, October 19, 2014 Concerning your post found here: http://forum.worldoftanks.com/index.php?/topic/392721-free-togs-for-all/page__st__120__pid__7915051#entry7915051      Speculation on t [..] View

PAX AUS Gold code

5:03 am, October 19, 2014 First one to comment can have my code for 800 gold and 3 days premium. Don't comment if you've already used one of these PAX codes because you can only use 1 (Thats the reason I have 1 to give out) Al [..] View

Have you ever been in public......

5:03 am, October 19, 2014 So this happened to me the other day me and my friend were at the store and we were talking about world of tanks and apparently we said it penetrated kinda of loud and got some very weird stares from [..] View

Ughh, just had a teammate fail at trying to TK me

5:03 am, October 19, 2014 After calling out an allied KV-5 for camping by telling the enemy team that KV-5s are the best sniping platform in the game, he started talking smack and did the usual "ur bad" and "now [..] View

Light Tanks should require less exp to unlock(repetitive/boring gameplay)..

5:03 am, October 19, 2014 Light Tank by far the least played and very difficult to acquire experience due to lack of damage and bad pen. Here is an example of what is wrong with Light tank lines. Aufkl Panther cost like 43,100 [..] View

How should I play a bottom tier heavy?

4:03 pm, October 18, 2014 My armour is useless, my speed is non-existent, my gun pen is not up to scratch, my health pool is 75% of my enemies, i'm too slow to go after lights and meds, my view range is too poor to spot anythi [..] View

Server Population. Which Is It?

5:03 am, October 18, 2014 I'm stuck on the west coast and play the west server for connectivity reasons. I always see the west server population, even tonight (Friday), and it's about 1/4th of the east server population. So, d [..] View

Im new some questions

4:03 pm, October 17, 2014 Does WOT IP ban or Hardwire ban or can I just simply creat a new account? , also only asking because I want to test some mods from curse and im iffy ill get a ban for them? any safe mods I can use wit [..] View

WG please...

4:03 pm, October 17, 2014 ...can't you give us more T5 premiums? With the new XP boost from premium tonks the sweet spot for crew training is tier 5, because they're more likely to have a full 5-man crew at that tier, but it's [..] View

Advice on getting into heavies

4:03 pm, October 17, 2014 I just crested 2000 battles yesterday and have been playing with lights, mediums and TDs and have been doing so-so. I have been watching you-tube and reading the newbie guides daily. Most of my experi [..] View

New to scouting . I think i'm going to enjoy these tanks.

5:03 am, October 17, 2014 http://wotreplays.com/site/1247002#el_halluf-visveres-t37 Replay of me in my newly acquired T37 ( just 2nd gun and last radio ) having a blast on El Halluf . Got very lucky in retrospect if they were [..] View

Flush!

4:03 pm, October 16, 2014 I feel buoyant this morning...like I just dropped a load.   ARL v39 is finally elite!  AND immediately sold!  FLUSH!  Fitting that it took 3 matches to get the last [..] View

AFK/BOT Detection...Maybe you should check if customers are actually trying to get in game to play!

4:03 pm, October 16, 2014 Well I confirmed my suspicion this morning, and I am sure Wargames did not test this before they implemented the new BOT / AFK Warning System.  Personally I figured I would just cross my fing [..] View

T-54 Lightweight hidden nerf - no camo bonus while moving

5:03 am, October 16, 2014 Pardon this repeat post, but the original didn't get much feedback.   heavymetal1967, on Oct 08 2014 - 09:38, said: Hopefully this is the result of bad testing or some other glitch.&n [..] View

Leo On Track: Guide+Replays

4:03 pm, October 15, 2014 Preface: My stats in the leo, http://i.imgur.com/JyNeD1L.jpg A wonderful (very generous) benefactor on reddit is gifting me a fury e8 if I do a leo 1 guide as well as guide him a bit in game, so here [..] View

Why grind for a Tier 10 vehicle? Are Strongholds important?

4:03 pm, October 15, 2014 Hi everyone! I'm currently sitting at Tier 8 in the french heavy line and decided to grind different lines first, because I don't earn any noteworthy money while playing the AMX 50 100, mostly because [..] View

Stug IIIV saveable?

4:03 pm, October 15, 2014 I was playing the 38T for some time, after getting off the Marder II as rapidly as possible (it does less damage per minute than a PzI). I had great luck sniping with the 38T, but was very frustrated [..] View

Fury Contest Results?

5:03 am, October 15, 2014 Did I win my tickets yet? I'm curious to see how many people tried for this contest, I specifically got an Easy 8 just because of it, and I now love that tank. I even got my first Mark of Excellence o [..] View

Need help...

5:03 am, October 15, 2014 Got a WOT problem. I know there are better places to ask such as the forums but I've been there and I have created a support ticket too, all I have received is useless help. Basically I don't have a r [..] View

Something I find slightly bizarre about the game.

4:03 pm, October 14, 2014 First off, I love this game. One thing that I find bizarre is the fact that different countries fight side by side (I.e. Germany & America). Does anybody else seem to think that is bizarre? I [..] View

How Have You Changed Over Time?

4:03 pm, October 14, 2014 Man.... I don't even know where to start. Over the past year the way I play WOT has changed so much I don't even know how to place what changed.  Look at me say, 12 months ago and I wasn't mu [..] View

When am I allowed to move up a tier? And a bit of crew training.

4:03 pm, October 14, 2014 Ok so I'm learning and playing the game.  I'm around tier 3-4 through earning but also purchased a pack of 3 tier 5 heavies a couple weeks ago.  I'm not great with those and I know i [..] View

Balance of the Hellcat

5:03 am, October 14, 2014 The Hellcat seems to be a hot topic in WoT as some tier 6's are better than the rest and used for pub stomping. Like the old KV-1S, Hellcat, Su-100. etc. Tanks with big guns that can carry games. Now [..] View

I think matchmaking is actually done by a person.

5:03 am, October 14, 2014 A person with an intense hatred for me. Let me quote his last ideas: "I understand that you are driving stock T6? Sure thing, T8 it is! For every match of course, wouldn't want you to miss out.&q [..] View

Grinding with the A20

5:03 am, October 14, 2014 So because I stupidity bought a Xbox one I am stuck playing WOT Blitz on the IPad. I have been tying to get the T34 and stuck with the A20. The best upgradable cannon sucks. How can I get more points [..] View

Lets Talk about the new Scouts!

4:03 pm, October 13, 2014 Ah yes, with the influx of new scout tanks people have been throwing out "OP OP OP PLS NERF TEARS TEARS TEARS" in pretty much every game now. Lets take a deeper walk into this mindset, dis-s [..] View

T14: the best tier 5 premium in the game.

4:03 pm, October 13, 2014 So I was platooned with my clanmate while he was grinding the T-34: MT, when I unlocked the VK30.1H. I had most of the modules unlocked from previous grinds, so all I needed were tank-specific mods (T [..] View

T34, how does it compare to T29 and T32?

5:03 am, October 13, 2014 I want to buy a Tier 8 Prem that is not the Super Pershing and I'm wondering if I'd like the T34. I've been grinding through a few lines (US medium and heavy, E50M and E100 lines, the IS-7 line) and T [..] View

Reddit Clan Recruitment Question...

5:03 am, October 13, 2014 So, I am an average player with average stats (Who once in a while YOLOs...). I look at this game for what it is a game and now somewhat of a hobby. I have always liked organized play and I have done [..] View

Discussion: Is it a good thing that all TDs can pivot?

5:03 am, October 12, 2014 On one hand it makes playing a TD easier but on the other hand its absolutely unhistorcial because only a hand full of the TDs in WoT could actually pivot. Wargaming says they want to make all the cha [..] View

Looking for advice on playing the (nearly) stock IS-8

5:03 am, October 12, 2014 I say nearly stock because I'm using the BL-9 for the obvious reason that I don't want to make myself suicidal before I've unlocked the IS-7. Anyhow I recently unlocked this tank and I'm having real t [..] View

So what exactly changed to make the 263 CW-viable?

4:03 pm, October 11, 2014 Last time I played CW it was all about the Waffles, E3s, and sometimes E4s (weak turret or not, dat alpha with a turret). But the 263 never got taken because ****** alpha, huge size, and open top. Inc [..] View

T-37 American Light

5:03 am, October 11, 2014 Just got this tank a few days ago. I haven't even unlocked the top guns yet but I am already loving it. I have had some great games so far with this baby. It's speed, though not blazingly fast, is cer [..] View

Low Tier Heavies in the Front Line, or not?

5:03 am, October 11, 2014 I guess most players encountered this situation from one perspective in the past: I was driving my BDR and was put into a Tier 7 match on Airfield. Assuming that my survivability is negligible, I deci [..] View

move the platoon button away from the battle button

4:03 pm, October 10, 2014 it's incredibly annoying to click platoon instead of battle because they're so close together. you'd think that when redesigning the UI, WG would manage to make it better. nope. they made it worse. View

Light tank. Scouting. What am I missing?

5:03 am, October 10, 2014 I've got the Pz 1 c. Fully upgraded. Whenever I'm in a game with tier 2 and 3 I'm great, as I probably should be. But against tier 4 and 5 when I can't just motor through and blast everyone I am lost. [..] View

Hope for newcomers

5:03 am, October 10, 2014 Hey newbies, just have an example of how people can improve. I first started world of tanks with a different account and a different e-mail address, and I forgot my login info, so I just crea [..] View

T28 Concept Tank

5:03 am, October 10, 2014 Info taken from FTR http://ftr.wot-news.com/2014/10/09/straight-outta-supertest-t28-concept/   Because I love making comparisons I will be comparing the stats of the T28 Concept to the other [..] View

Been playing for a week, just had my best Artillery shot so far.

4:03 pm, October 9, 2014 Tried to submit it as a link last night but it never took I guess because I don't have the link karma? Anyways check out my video below from last night and let me know if you think it was a good shot [..] View

Suspended from chat message

4:03 pm, October 9, 2014 I was playing a game this morning and was going to send a message but couldnt . Got the message that I have been suspended from chat for 5s. I don't know what 5S means and don't know why I received it [..] View

Are Mastery "Ace Tanker" awards not meant to make any sense when you get one?

4:03 pm, October 9, 2014 I played a game in my Tier 5 M4 Sherman yesterday and I got a Mastery badge.  I was excited of course (its only my fifth one ever), but also very confused.  My WN8 score for the matc [..] View

The Chi-Ri's "Low" Penetration

5:03 am, October 9, 2014 After what I thought was a mostly pleasant grind through the Chi-Ri (2535 WN8 over 91 battles), I've noticed a lot of people talking about how it has such low pen. It's definitely right in the middle [..] View

How do you guys deal with stalker/bully/harassment in game?

5:03 am, October 9, 2014 There is this guy who started following, ramming, stalking and blocking all my shots from the beginning of the game, for the whole duration of the game.  For absolutely no reason.  I [..] View

A story about the results of pi-polar tanking.

4:03 pm, October 8, 2014 A short story about my struggle with tanking, family and work, and how the three battled for my sole.   Some of you already know me from long ago as "The Unicum Hunter" in the forum [..] View

T-54 lightweight losing camo while moving (not getting light camo bonus)

4:03 pm, October 8, 2014 Hopefully this is the result of bad testing or some other glitch.  But if not it seems the T-54 lightweight loses camo while moving. Could that be because it's a lightweight version of the T- [..] View

So far....

4:03 pm, October 8, 2014 I'm enjoying this game,I managed to play my T-46 rather decently than expected.Thought I will **** at it because I skipped the T-26. Basically,What gun did you use on the T-46,The 45mm one or the 76mm [..] View

upgrade T-150 and su-100

4:03 pm, October 8, 2014 the kv-85 got a major upgrade with the 100mm gun. it fires fast and accurate, however, the su-100 and T-150 seem to be left behind.   su-100 has a small upgrade in penetration and ac [..] View

How can WG make dealing damage more popular?

4:03 pm, October 8, 2014 So with the introduction of the Fire for Effect medal (variously described as the most useless medal to earn or the most depressing medal to NOT earn) I've started looking at damage numbers in my team [..] View

Eliminate Platoons of 3

4:03 pm, October 8, 2014 Platoons of 3 are too powerful, and in pubs they make up too much of the team. I feel they decide the game for the team in fact. I understand that platoons are necessary because people like to play wi [..] View

Why is this game against collecting tanks

5:03 am, October 8, 2014 Because the more tanks you have, the more sets of crew you have, and the less skills your crew will have.   Since skill is so important to a tank's performance, it eventually hurts your perfo [..] View

IS-3 problems

5:03 am, October 8, 2014 I recently got the IS-3 but I've only been pulling a 50% winrate. For me this is abnormal because all of the tanks I've gotten recently have a 57+ winrate. I haven't been playing hyper-aggressive so i [..] View

Upcoming 6th Sense change will destroy what's left of passive scouting.

5:03 am, October 8, 2014 - Storm confirms that the Sixth Sense rework (its transfer to the radioman, activated when radioman training hits 100 percent) will happen in medium future (SS: that usually means cca 6 months)- devel [..] View

Game close reandomly and i die

5:03 am, October 8, 2014 Hello, So Today the usual thing happened the game randomly closes and it keeps the w that i had and runs me right into the open. Wg wth? This happens constantly it is [edited]. So we have to deal with [..] View

Horrible stock grinds tier 8 & 9?

4:03 pm, October 7, 2014 I drawn a handful of my friends/colleagues into this game some time ago. These are mostly sub average players as of now and have so far heeded my advice to not rush tiers. Most of them play without pr [..] View

Couple of questions

4:03 pm, October 7, 2014 I play Wot for a some months now and reached a point where I ask my self to go all in or just quit the game. I have mainly T6 tanks and 2 T7 tanks with a whole lot of T7's unlocked but no money to pur [..] View

Hats off to you M103 players that are good with it.

4:03 pm, October 7, 2014 I'm not good as it is, but I do my best.  That tank is very hard to be good with.  When I see a good player that plays good with that tank, I know they are skilled because that tank [..] View

here's how it works.

5:03 am, October 7, 2014 Part 1: Here's how public matches work. THEY ARE NOT A COMPETITION!!! they are for having fun and goofing off. if you want to rant about stats and call people noobs then please by all means go to stro [..] View

The new M5 is really bad.

5:03 am, October 7, 2014 I kept my M5 because I really enjoyed playing it I loved the little derp gun it made it where I could track enemy heavies and it gave me something I could **** arty with when I found them. The new top [..] View

WN8 question: Given that in some cases, overall wn8 score is next to impossible to raise in a reasonable amount of time

4:03 pm, October 6, 2014 Why isn't last 1k considered more important? I know I'm bias because my last 1k is much better than my overall, but doesn't that make a better metric than an archaic score that may be completely irrel [..] View

Is the T14 the worst T5 heavy?

4:03 pm, October 6, 2014 I've been driving this thing a while, bought it while it was on sale. At first it was fun, as the gun was kinda crummy but at least it was bouncy. I currently have a 55% WR over 318 battles. Lately, h [..] View

How to deal with platoons of high tier ranges?

5:03 am, October 6, 2014 This isn't about people being bad at the game or having bad stats or whatever. This is about platoons that bring tier 1-3 tanks into tier 9-10 games. It seems to happen a lot more than usual lately. W [..] View

Need help deciding what to spend 6500 gold on.

5:03 am, October 6, 2014 So this is my first time purchasing gold so I went and got 6500 gold and what I am thinking of doing is buying the TOG(since its on discount) and either getting the DickerMax or the SU-100y and leave [..] View

Expecting a server transfer event by 2017?

5:03 am, October 6, 2014 I'm wondering if we can expect a server transfer event from NA to EU by 2017, if not sooner.   I'm an asian player right now and play in the NA server with much ping, so it doesn't matter rig [..] View

The XP value at end of game (premium questions)

5:03 am, October 6, 2014 Does this number change based on account-type, or does it always stay raw? Is it the base? Because in a prior thread about the maximum XP on the service record screen, I found out that that number is [..] View

t-54 stock advice (engine vs tracks)

4:03 pm, October 5, 2014 ok, so the t-54 handles like a ******* panther 2 when stock, which is to say like a faster brick but brick nonetheless. I upgraded the turret because it gives me slightly better opportunities but it b [..] View

[META] Rule change involving uncropped screenshots

5:03 am, October 5, 2014 A lot of the time people are posting full screens of their game at whatever res they run to show something in the bottom corner. Not only is it a pain for mobile but it also means you can't see the co [..] View

Help me decide: T-62A or Obj140 for Random?

4:03 pm, October 4, 2014 OK, I am milling over this for a week now. I have the Obj140 but drive it mostly in CW / Ultimates and like it fine. I also have an Obj268 with a monter crew gathering dust. I have the T-62A unlocked. [..] View

Accidentally skipped the tutorial, is there a way to still do it?

4:03 pm, October 4, 2014 Just downloaded WoT today. I skipped the tutorial because I wanted to take a look at the starter tanks, thinking I'd be able to do the tutorial later. Can I still do it? Or will I just have to do regu [..] View

T15 and other lower tier premium tanks desperately need BUFFS

4:03 pm, October 4, 2014  Thanks WG for the credit and crew buffs to lower tier tanks, but the main reason I don't play them is because they ****.  Look at the T15.  There is no comparison between t [..] View

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